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Re: mr superstar

Sorry, i made a mistake when i was editing the 2014/08/06 Utrecht, Netherlands page, i only wanted to add the Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) video and i forgot to reinsert the Mister Superstar one.
User:MAFF'L (talk) 14:31, 8 August 2014 (CEST)

no problem man, thanks (talk) 11:24, 13 April 2014 (CEST))

Spam

Hi Scarshock, I noticed the recent spam. We did have in place a captcha / select certain pictures system for edits without a user account, not sure whether it's still in place or lost with the previous database losses? Harlequin (talk)

It should be included with the current version of mediawiki, though not sure of the configiration. See here Harlequin (talk)

hi, i'm trying to test the extension being not authenticated and being behind a proxy 185.137.17.60 22:56, 9 August 2017 (CEST)

another test 185.137.17.60 22:57, 9 August 2017 (CEST)

i had to grab an older version because of MediaWiki version incompabilities but still can't make it work so far. i think that we need a more strict mechanism, not requiring captchas, but rather having a sort of a reviewing system. we have page patrolling, but it affects page history -- it would be nice to have an extension that could "shelve" untrusted edits to a sort of stash and only after the shelved edits are approved, they could be added to page history. in this case, such a review could simply keep page histories as clean as possible scarshock (talk) 23:06, 9 August 2017 (CEST)

if such an extension exists, we could prevent both spam and vandalism scarshock (talk) 23:08, 9 August 2017 (CEST)

It would be nice if login was required to edit? We also had kittenauth (written by Litso), not sure if still installed? here Harlequin (talk)

Did some investigating, this could do what you're suggesting. moderation Harlequin (talk)

it looks great, thank you! i've just checked it and it looks exactly what i was looking for. i also did a little test and it has two things i would like it to have improved: 1) the moderation requires Special:Moderation to be constantly tracked (it is not a part of Special:RecentChanges unfortunately, so it's easy to miss a bunch of edits); 2) if there are text conflicts (if an anonymous edits a page and the page is edited by someone else before anonymous' edit is approved), text conflicts must be resolved manually, but the page conflicts resolve UI only suggests a simple editor with the page actual text, so the anonymous user edits must be copied manually from the red/green difference panel above the editor; 3) approved edits are not marked as patrolled automatically. the rest of the things look great so far. have to check for another alternative scarshock (talk) 18:07, 10 August 2017 (CEST)

I don't mind the idea of a special:moderation page as it will keep edits by established editors separate from those that require closer monitoring. I imagine it could be configured so that only the first 5-10 or so edits are moderated, then once its estabished the editor isn't spamming defer to unmoderated editing to appear in recent changes as a part of normal proceedure? If aim of having it is to filter out spam bots,I can't imagine a user account or IP requiring on going moderation or approval after the first few edits? Harlequin (talk)

i made a brief investigation on possible alternatives and the issues in Extension:Moderation. in short, no alternative extensions that provide such functionality, and the issues are either something that cannot be implemented due to technical reasons in MediaWiki or some misunderstanding from my side on how the extension works. i think we should give it a try. thanks for the great finding! scarshock (talk) 12:22, 11 August 2017 (CEST)

i've just installed the extension. please check if you have permissions to access Special:Moderation and if so, please follow the instructions in the extension. thanks! scarshock (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2017 (CEST)

the moderation page link has to be automatically added to the Navigation section in the sidebar if you have enough permissions. hope it works for you :) scarshock (talk) 17:28, 11 August 2017 (CEST)

ahh I see what's happening. It seems to be glitching a little. Sometimes visible in the navigation when not logged in. Might be my cache.Im on a tablet at the moment so I'll check on my laptop in a little bit and see if it changes Harlequin (talk)

no, not cache. it looks like a server issue: the parser functions seem not to work well in the sidebar code for some reason. have to investigate more scarshock (talk) 09:07, 12 August 2017 (CEST)

by the way, can you mark unpatrolled edits as patrolled after installing the extension? scarshock (talk) 18:49, 14 August 2017 (CEST)

Hi, no I don't seem to have to option. Im also noticing additional characters to moderation in the main page navigation menu which sends me to an "Invalid Title" page. I can only seem to access from the navigation menu after landing on recent changes Harlequin (talk)

i'm not sure where the patrolling option has gone. i'll recheck it while temporarily disabling the moderation extension today. regarding the sidebar: it looks like the sidebar is parsed/ processed in a different way than the rest of the pages are. i had to remove the link from the sidebar, please bookmark Special:Moderation in your browser until we find a more convenient way to access the page scarshock (talk) 08:11, 15 August 2017 (CEST)

Hi, yes, the main page and menu are separate due to the design/skin. I did read that parser functions in the sidebar arent recommended, but can be done. In our case though it may be better to update localsettings.php? Or alternatively add to the user menu or tools? Harlequin (talk)

could you please provide a link for how LocalSettings.php should be updated? scarshock (talk) 08:38, 15 August 2017 (CEST)

Hi, here's the few pages I was looking at. Sidebar, User rights, Modify toolbox.

P.S. don't forget to backup before major changes ;p Harlequin (talk)

Hi, I'm a bit strapped for time at the moment but wanted to check in. This seems to be holding up discussion pages as well, which is not good. Also, there's a new message on my talk that would be great if you could take a look at if you have a chance. Thanks :) Harlequin (talk)

Discussion Board

Are you able to edit and add categories here? Special:WikiForum Harlequin (talk)

no, i'm not. do we need it? scarshock (talk) 16:43, 19 August 2017 (CEST)

I didn't know we had it. I was looking at special pages and came across it and tried to add a category to test it and see what it looked like. It might be a good area for people who don't like editing to submit news? It might ecourage more editors/activity. What do you think? Harlequin (talk)

it looks like a misconfiguration. the news section is almost dead for long time -- i don't speak English good enough to be able to post news, and the only "news" left in MansonWiki are just tour date logs and Manson's Instagram/Twitter updates just because these two are simple to copy/paste not requiring much knowledge in English (+ at least tour dates are a matter of encyclopedic interest). i would like to disable the forums completely as i don't see any reason of why they should be maintained having other much more popular discussion boards elsewhere. i believe that the nature of wiki is just editing pages in place, so wiki-based forums are probably a bad choice scarshock (talk) 08:34, 21 August 2017 (CEST)

Protected page

Is there a way you could unprotect this page so I can update it? (Video_Interview:Marilyn_Manson_Speaks_Out_Against_Violence_(2000)). Thanks ! WW (talk) 01:20, 09/05/2020 (CEST)

Changed the protection level. I didn't even know that it was set in 2013. I have no clue why that page was even protected like that (it is neither system, nor "controversial"), but I think I have to remove the protection from it completely. If there are more "strangely protected" pages like that, please put a comment in their respective discussion pages, so I'll be notified. Thanks! scarshock (talk) 09:25, 9 May 2020 (CEST)

Upcoming album page

I think we should create a new page dedicated to the upcoming album as we always did for each albums. That way we could add any related news to prevent potential information loss. WW (talk) 21:32, 02/03/2022 (CEST)

Did I miss something? I haven't seen any mention on anything like that recently. scarshock (talk) 14:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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