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{{Welcome}} [[User:Vixen Windstorm|Alden Weston]] 00:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 
 
==Main Tour page column project==
 
[[Support_for_Danzig%27s_Danzig_4p_Tour]] Column changed to match new ones done. All of the pages were already with the ''yyyy/mo/day'' format. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer - Senior Editor]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 23:18, 3 April 2014 (CEST)
 
 
: thank you very much, Sumer :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 10:17, 4 April 2014 (CEST))
 
 
==Tour Page formatting==
 
Made a sample Tour Page with notes in the [[The_Marilyn_Manson_Wiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. Let me know what you think. I was told it is proper to bold the date as say it was an article about a song, the name of the song would be bolded, (at least in the first sentence), so I am concurring on that one. However it's agreed no About section header and the Lineup should be Person - Instrument, vocals unbolded. I did not address the Category structure, though. The Era - Portrait of an American Family vs Portrait of an American Family era. My next step I might make a sample page and add a link to it in the Help or cheat sheet area. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer - Senior Editor]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 09:43, 5 April 2014 (CEST)
 
 
: hi, Sumer. thanks. if you don't mind, i'll prepare the MediaWiki template for the about section, when i get some more free time, so we could change the appearance if necessary as many times as we might want. concerning the categories, i guess, "Portrait of an American Family era" is better than "Era - ..." ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 21:42, 5 April 2014 (CEST))
 
 
::Thanks, I saw the new templates. I want to confirm, the ''yyy/mp/day'' changes on the main tour pages that we are editing are to appear in that format in the tables. In other words, the tables should have the date showing like in this one: [[Self_Destruct]] not like how it's showing now in this one: [[Further_Down_the_Spiral]].
 
 
::It was said to change one category like that would mean changing all of them and it was felt if someone was looking for an era they would look under the main title first. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 19:12, 9 April 2014 (CEST)
 
 
FYI [[Smells_Like_Children_%28tour%29]] updated the table to the new style. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 07:33, 11 April 2014 (CEST)
 
 
: according to the edit logs you've added 19,475) characters, so it was a great change, thanks! :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 19:41, 12 April 2014 (CEST))
 
 
:: :) Progress! Can you add country to the About template and maybe post it under template category so it can be found by others? Thanks! [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 04:49, 13 April 2014 (CEST)
 
::: Actually, I tried to add a reference at the end of that template and no matter what I did, the reference number would only appear on the next line, which didn't look quite right. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 06:01, 13 April 2014 (CEST)
 
 
:: i'm not sure that i've understood your request correctly, but [[Template:AboutPerformance]] already contains the <code>country</code> parameter, so you can specify a country as well (by its full name, not by its code like codes we use in <nowiki>[[Template:Country]]</nowiki>). or do i understand you totally wrong?... ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 09:34, 13 April 2014 (CEST))
 
 
::: note that the about-performance template now supports [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains country top-level internet domain codes] for the <code>country</code> parameter (lower case) as well as the <code>state</code> ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_abbreviations#Postal_codes postal codes], upper case). please see [http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sample_Pages:Tour_dates&curid=23247&diff=82795&oldid=82745 my changes] to the sample page ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]]
 
==Re: mr superstar==
 
Sorry, i made a mistake when i was editing the [[2014/08/06 Utrecht, Netherlands]] page, i only wanted to add the [[Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)]] video and i forgot to reinsert the [[Mister Superstar]] one.<br>[[User:MAFF'L]] ([[User talk:MAFF'L|talk]]) 14:31, 8 August 2014 (CEST)
 
 
:no problem man, thanks ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 11:24, 13 April 2014 (CEST))
 
 
==Spam==
 
Hi Scarshock, I noticed the recent spam. We did have in place a captcha / select certain pictures system for edits without a user account, not sure whether it's still in place or lost with the previous database losses? [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:It should be included with the current version of mediawiki, though not sure of the configiration. See [https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ConfirmEdit here] [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
::hi, i'm trying to test the extension being not authenticated and being behind a proxy [[Special:Contributions/185.137.17.60|185.137.17.60]] 22:56, 9 August 2017 (CEST)
 
::another test [[Special:Contributions/185.137.17.60|185.137.17.60]] 22:57, 9 August 2017 (CEST)
 
::i had to grab an older version because of MediaWiki version incompabilities but still can't make it work so far. i think that we need a more strict mechanism, not requiring captchas, but rather having a sort of a reviewing system. we have page patrolling, but it affects page history -- it would be nice to have an extension that could "shelve" untrusted edits to a sort of stash and only after the shelved edits are approved, they could be added to page history. in this case, such a review could simply keep page histories as clean as possible [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 23:06, 9 August 2017 (CEST)
 
::if such an extension exists, we could prevent both spam and vandalism [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 23:08, 9 August 2017 (CEST)
 
: It would be nice if login was required to edit? We also had kittenauth (written by Litso), not sure if still installed? [https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:KittenAuth here] [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
::Did some investigating, this could do what you're suggesting. [https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Moderation moderation][[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:::it looks great, thank you! i've just checked it and it looks exactly what i was looking for. i also did a little test and it has two things i would like it to have improved: 1) the moderation requires Special:Moderation to be constantly tracked (it is not a part of Special:RecentChanges unfortunately, so it's easy to miss a bunch of edits); 2) if there are text conflicts (if an anonymous edits a page and the page is edited by someone else before anonymous' edit is approved), text conflicts must be resolved manually, but the page conflicts resolve UI only suggests a simple editor with the page actual text, so the anonymous user edits must be copied manually from the red/green difference panel above the editor; 3) approved edits are not marked as patrolled automatically. the rest of the things look great so far. have to check for another alternative [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 18:07, 10 August 2017 (CEST)
 
::I don't mind the idea of a special:moderation page as it will keep edits by established editors separate from those that require closer monitoring. I imagine it could be configured so that only the first 5-10 or so edits are moderated, then once its estabished the editor isn't spamming defer to unmoderated editing to appear in recent changes as a part of normal proceedure? If aim of having it is to filter out spam bots,I can't imagine a user account or IP requiring on going moderation or approval after the first few edits? [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:::i made a brief investigation on possible alternatives and the issues in Extension:Moderation. in short, no alternative extensions that provide such functionality, and the issues are either something that cannot be implemented due to technical reasons in MediaWiki or some misunderstanding from my side on how the extension works. i think we should give it a try. thanks for the great finding! [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 12:22, 11 August 2017 (CEST)
 
:::i've just installed the extension. please check if you have permissions to access [[Special:Moderation]] and if so, please follow the instructions in the extension. thanks! [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 16:59, 11 August 2017 (CEST)
 
:::the moderation page link has to be automatically added to the Navigation section in the sidebar if you have enough permissions. hope it works for you :) [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 17:28, 11 August 2017 (CEST)
 
:: hi, it seems to be working well. Just not sure it should be accessed via the site navigation menu, maybe only visible to admin in the user menu. EG: user|talk|preferences|moderation|watchlist|contributions [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
::: ahh I see what's happening. It seems to be glitching a little. Sometimes visible in the navigation when not logged in. Might be my cache.Im on a tablet at the moment so I'll  check on my laptop in a little bit and see if it changes [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:::: no, not cache. it looks like a server issue: the parser functions seem not to work well in the sidebar code for some reason. have to investigate more [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 09:07, 12 August 2017 (CEST)
 
:::: by the way, can you mark unpatrolled edits as patrolled after installing the extension? [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 18:49, 14 August 2017 (CEST)
 
: Hi, no I don't seem to have to option. Im also noticing additional characters to moderation in the main page navigation menu which sends me to an "Invalid Title" page. I can only seem to access from the navigation menu after landing on recent changes [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:: i'm not sure where the patrolling option has gone. i'll recheck it while temporarily disabling the moderation extension today. regarding the sidebar: it looks like the sidebar is  parsed/ processed in a different way than the rest of the pages are. i had to remove the link from the sidebar, please bookmark Special:Moderation in your browser until we find a more convenient way to access the page [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 08:11, 15 August 2017 (CEST)
 
:::Hi, yes, the main page and menu are separate due to the design/skin. I did read that parser functions in the sidebar arent recommended, but can be done. In our case though it may be better to update localsettings.php? Or alternatively add to the user menu or tools? [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:::: could you please provide a link for how LocalSettings.php should be updated? [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 08:38, 15 August 2017 (CEST)
 
::Hi, here's the few pages I was looking at. [https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar Sidebar], [https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights User rights], [https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:Seb35/modifyToolbox Modify toolbox].
 
::::P.S. don't forget to backup before major changes ;p [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
::Hi, I'm a bit strapped for time at the moment but wanted to check in. This seems to be holding up discussion pages as well, which is not good. Also, there's a new message on my talk that would be great if you could take a look at if you have a chance. Thanks :) [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
 
==Discussion Board==
 
Are you able to edit and add categories here? [[Special:WikiForum]]  [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:no, i'm not. do we need it? [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 16:43, 19 August 2017 (CEST)
 
::I didn't know we had it. I was looking at special pages and came across it and tried to add a category to test it and see what it looked like. It might be a good area for people who don't like editing to submit news? It might ecourage more editors/activity. What do you think? [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] ([[User talk:Harlequin|talk]])
 
:::it looks like a misconfiguration. the news section is almost dead for long time -- i don't speak English good enough to be able to post news, and the only "news" left in MansonWiki are just tour date logs and Manson's Instagram/Twitter updates just because these two are simple to copy/paste not requiring much knowledge in English (+ at least tour dates are a matter of encyclopedic interest). i would like to disable the forums completely as i don't see any reason of why they should be maintained having other much more popular discussion boards elsewhere. i believe that the nature of wiki is just editing pages in place, so wiki-based forums are probably a bad choice [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 08:34, 21 August 2017 (CEST)
 
 
==Protected page==
 
Is there a way you could unprotect this page so I can update it? ([[Video_Interview:Marilyn_Manson_Speaks_Out_Against_Violence_(2000)]]). Thanks ! [[User:MechaniKal_DeVil|WW]] ([[User talk:MechaniKal_DeVil|talk]]) 01:20, 09/05/2020 (CEST)
 
:Changed the protection level. I didn't even know that it was set in 2013. I have no clue why that page was even protected like that (it is neither system, nor "controversial"), but I think I have to remove the protection from it completely. If there are more "strangely protected" pages like that, please put a comment in their respective discussion pages, so I'll be notified. Thanks! [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 09:25, 9 May 2020 (CEST)
 
 
 
 
==Upcoming album page==
 
==Upcoming album page==
 
I think we should create a new page dedicated to the upcoming album as we always did for each albums. That way we could add any related news to prevent potential information loss.
 
I think we should create a new page dedicated to the upcoming album as we always did for each albums. That way we could add any related news to prevent potential information loss.
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:Did I miss something? I haven't seen any mention on anything like that recently. [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 14:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 
:Did I miss something? I haven't seen any mention on anything like that recently. [[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 14:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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== Merry Christmas! ==
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The migration seems to work :) [[User:Litso|Litso]] ([[User talk:Litso|talk]]) 18:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:59, 25 December 2023

Upcoming album page[edit]

I think we should create a new page dedicated to the upcoming album as we always did for each albums. That way we could add any related news to prevent potential information loss. WW (talk) 21:32, 02/03/2022 (CEST)

Did I miss something? I haven't seen any mention on anything like that recently. scarshock (talk) 14:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

The migration seems to work :) Litso (talk) 18:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)