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| | Hey there, welcome! Glad you like the wiki, and I really appreciated your additions to [[Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)]]. Thanks a lot :) [[User:Litso|Litso]] 23:40, 3 August 2008 (CEST) | | Hey there, welcome! Glad you like the wiki, and I really appreciated your additions to [[Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)]]. Thanks a lot :) [[User:Litso|Litso]] 23:40, 3 August 2008 (CEST) |
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| | : Hi Red, first of all I must apologize too. I deliberately questioned you to prove a point. That being that content that is of an analytical nature is not always accurate and probably best left off of the wiki. The term "The Winter of our Discontent" was actually first coined by Shakespeare and put to print in Richard III, 1954. It's relevance in the song President Dead, is that at a 1963 news conference, a reporter questioned Kennedy: "Reporter: "There is some impression and talk in the town and country that your Administration seems to have lost its momentum and to be slowing down and to be moving on the defensive. Could you comment on this feeling in the country?" President Kennedy: "I think we are making some progress so that if you ask me whether this was the 'Winter of Our Discontent', I would say no. If you would ask me whether we were doing quite as well this winter as we were doing in the fall, I would say no, too." Kennedy was assassinated later that year, hence the lyric "we can't all be martyred in the winter of our discontent." [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin]] 08:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC) | | : Hi Red, first of all I must apologize too. I deliberately questioned you to prove a point. That being that content that is of an analytical nature is not always accurate and probably best left off of the wiki. The term "The Winter of our Discontent" was actually first coined by Shakespeare and put to print in Richard III, 1954. It's relevance in the song President Dead, is that at a 1963 news conference, a reporter questioned Kennedy: "Reporter: "There is some impression and talk in the town and country that your Administration seems to have lost its momentum and to be slowing down and to be moving on the defensive. Could you comment on this feeling in the country?" President Kennedy: "I think we are making some progress so that if you ask me whether this was the 'Winter of Our Discontent', I would say no. If you would ask me whether we were doing quite as well this winter as we were doing in the fall, I would say no, too." Kennedy was assassinated later that year, hence the lyric "we can't all be martyred in the winter of our discontent." [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin]] 08:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | ::If you're looking for somewhere to bounce ideas, concepts and analysis regarding the triptych, [http://www.nachtkabarett.com/babalon/topic/5406--Triptych-Track-by-Track/page:1| here]'s a good place to start. Rest assured the administration does watch over edits here. While we ''could'' write these articles ourselves, we like to encourage fans to add and participate in the creation of Manson Wiki, "for the fans, by the fans." [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin]] 11:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC) | + | ::If you're looking for somewhere to bounce ideas, concepts and analysis regarding the triptych, [https://www.nachtkabarett.com/babalon/topic/5406--Triptych-Track-by-Track/page:1| here]'s a good place to start. Rest assured the administration does watch over edits here. While we ''could'' write these articles ourselves, we like to encourage fans to add and participate in the creation of Manson Wiki, "for the fans, by the fans." [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin]] 11:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC) |
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| | ::: Give us about 15 minutes, So that <me> can look over it as well. :) [[User:Godspeed|[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 11:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC) | | ::: Give us about 15 minutes, So that <me> can look over it as well. :) [[User:Godspeed|[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 11:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC) |
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| + | *The first clip of Mansonspeaking into the camera was a podcast that was uploaded to MM.com prior to the release of Holy Wood. I've seen the other clip before as well It's from Dotmusic, which was popular during 99-00 and subsequently shut down in 03. The interview was released following the release of the album. [[User:Godspeed|[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 08:28, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
| − | '''''Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)''''' is the fourth full-length [[studio album]] by [[United States|American]] [[rock band]] [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]]. It was released on November 14, 2000 in the [[United States|US]] and [[Australia]] by [[Interscope Records]]. Unlike their previous outings, ''Holy Wood'' was a commercial disappointment despite generally favorable reviews from critics<ref name="metacritic2000">{{cite web | url = http://www.metacritic.com/music/holy-wood-in-the-shadow-of-the-valley-of-death | title = Marilyn Manson: Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) (2000): Reviews | publisher = [[Metacritic]] | accessdate = 2010-11-15}}</ref> and marked a return to the [[industrial metal|industrial rock/metal]] style of the band's earlier efforts after the group's foray into [[glam rock]] on ''Mechanical Animals''.
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| − | It is a [[concept album]] and the third and final installment in a [[trilogy]] that includes ''[[Antichrist Superstar]]'' and ''[[Mechanical Animals]]''.<ref name="Amazon"/> It charted at No. 13 on the Billboard 200<ref name="Billboard Holy Wood charting"/> and spawned three singles ("[[Disposable Teens]]", "[[The Fight Song (Marilyn Manson song)|The Fight Song]]" and "[[The Nobodies (song)|The Nobodies]]") and a [[Holy Wood (book)|novel]] which remains currently unreleased.<ref name="AP#148"/>
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| − | After its release, [[Marilyn Manson]] revealed that his concept album trilogy is told in a reverse timeline (chronologically reverse from their actual release dates). ''Holy Wood'', therefore, opens the storyline followed by ''Mechanical Animals'' and concluded with ''Antichrist Superstar''.<ref name="VH1.com">{{cite web|last=Saidman |first=Sorelle |url=http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1124176/20000918/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Unveils Tour Plans, First Single For Holy Wood |publisher=MTV News Online (latterly [[VH1]].com) |date=2000-09-18 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref><ref name="AP#148"/>
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| − | Since it is the band's first album following the [[Columbine High School massacre]] on April 20, 1999, ''Holy Wood'' served the group as both rebuttal and retort at the accusations leveled at them. The band's [[Marilyn Manson|controversial frontman]] has described the record as "a declaration of [[culture war|war]]".<ref name="Robinson"/><ref name="autogenerated40"/>
| + | It is in the sense of linking back and forth. But that doesn't extend to mirroring sites. [[User:Godspeed|[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 00:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | The album's conception and gestation was marked by the singer's three month seclusion at his then home in the [[Hollywood Hills]] following the ''Columbine'' tragedy. After cancelling the remaining dates of the band's ''[[Rock Is Dead Tour]]'',<ref name="NYTimesSterngold">{{cite web|last=Sterngold |first=James |url=http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/29/us/terror-in-littleton-the-culture-rock-concerts-are-cancelled.html?ref=marilyn_manson |title=Terror in Littleton: The Culture; Rock Concerts Are Cancelled |publisher=''The New York Times'' |date=1999-04-29 |accessdate=2010-11-22}}</ref> the band retreated from public view.<ref name="AP#148"/> During this period of relative silence, Manson avoided interviews and publicity.<ref name="AP#148"/><ref name="autogenerated40"/> The frontman spent this time vacillating on "what I was going to do and how I was going to react"<ref name="autogenerated40"/>, stating, "There was a bit of trepidation, deciding, 'Is it worth it? Are people understanding what I'm trying to say? Am I even gonna be allowed to ''say'' it? Because I definitely had every single door shut in my face...there were not a lot of people who stood behind me."<ref name="AP#148"/> The singer would later admit in ''[[Alternative Press]]'' that there was also a genuine concern for his safety, "...one reason I ''didn't'' leave was, I genuinely believed that there was a realistic possibility that I could be [[Death of John Lennon|shot Mark David Chapman-style]]". A further blow would come in the form of the disintegration of his long-term relationship with then-fiancée, actress [[Rose McGowan]].<ref name="AP#148">{{cite journal |author=Tom Lanham |date= |year=2000 |month=November |title=Marilyn Manson: Absinthe Makes The Heart Grow Fonder |trans_title= |journal=[[Alternative Press]] |volume= |series= |issue=#148 |page= |pages=76-86 |at= |chapter= |location= |publisher= |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |language=English |accessdate=2010-11-22 }}</ref> The one break in his self-imposed exile was in May of that year when the embattled musician began to address the accusations starting with his ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' magazine op-ed piece, "Columbine: Whose Fault Is It?".<ref>{{cite journal |author= Marilyn Manson |title= Columbine: Whose Fault Is It? |archiveurl= |archivedate= |accessdate=2010-11-17 |type=op-ed essay |edition= |series= |volume= |date=28 |year=1999 |month=May |journal=[[Rolling Stone]] magazine |location= |language=English}}</ref>
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| − | After determining to continue making music and settling on a course of attack, the band spent a year of production and recording.<ref name="Long">{{cite journal |author=April Long |date=10 |year=2000 |month=November |title=Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) album review |trans_title= |journal=[[NME]] Magazine |volume= |series= |issue= |page= |pages=76-86 |url=http://www.nme.com/reviews/marilyn-manson/3456 |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |language=English |accessdate=2010-12-02}}</ref><ref name="autogenerated40">{{cite journal |author=Tom Bryant |date=10 |year=2010 |month=November |title=Screaming For Vengeance |trans_title= |journal=[[Kerrang!]] |volume= |series= |issue= |page= |pages=40-42 |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |language=English |accessdate=2010-11-14}}</ref> Of the album, Manson stated, "The news media held me responsible for basically every act of violence that happened in America, no matter what. So what should I do? Stand there and let them fuck me over or turn around and smash their teeth in? I decided that I'm going to do the latter and I'm going to do it so hard that they'll wish they've never been born."<ref name="autogenerated40"/>
| + | Hey! Thank you very much for your edits, they are brilliant! --[[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 23:34, 29 April 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | The album was written in Manson's aforementioned former home, which is the same house where the [[Rolling Stones]] were rumoured to have written ''[[Let It Bleed]]''.<ref name="VH1.com"/> Recording was done in a mansion that once belonged to escape artist [[Harry Houdini]].<ref name="metroactive.com"/> Manson has claimed that over 100 songs had been written during the production of ''Holy Wood'', though only 19 made it into the final product.<ref name="Basham">{{cite web|last=Basham |first=David |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431695/19991216/marilyn_manson.jhtml|title= Manson To Walk In The "Valley Of Death" For Next LP |publisher=MTVNews.com |date= 1999-12-16|accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref>
| + | :I'm not finished yet. Lots of info still to embed. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 01:10, 30 April 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | At the 1999 [[MTV Europe Music Awards]], Manson revealed to [[MTV]] [[MTV News|News]]' [[John Norris (reporter)|John Norris]] the title of his then-unrevealed album and movie screenplay, which he "will go into production sometime in the next year."<ref name="Norris"/> He further divulged,
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| − | {{cquote|I'm at that point in my career where I wanted to make this film and I'm [also] making this new record, where I really examine suffering and where celebrities come from. How it all kind of traces back in religion, and celebrities and Hollywood all kind of relate to each other. And that's very American.|4=[[Marilyn Manson]] |5=Marilyn Manson To Probe Celebrity And Suffering In New Film, Next Album.<ref name="Norris">{{cite web|last=Norris |first= John |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431696/19991124/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title= 'Marilyn Manson To Probe Celebrity And Suffering In New Film, Next Album. |publisher=MTVNews.com |date=1999-11-24|accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref>}}
| + | In recognition of your contributions, we would like to invite you to become a senior editor at Manson Wiki, you now have moderator status on the wiki forums and are able to access the admin sections there :) [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 07:05, 25 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| + | :I would be honored. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 07:19, 25 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Following the [[moral panic]] that ensued after ''Columbine'', [[Marilyn Manson (musician)|the singer]] and the [[Marilyn Manson (band)|band]] served as [[scapegoat]],<ref>{{cite web|last=France |first=Lisa Respers |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/04/20/columbine.pop.culture/index.html?iref=allsearch |title=Columbine left its indelible mark on pop culture |publisher=CNN.com |date=2009-04-20 |accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=D'Angelo |first=Joe |last2=Vineyard |first2=Jennifer |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1442018/20010322/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Bows Out Of Denver Ozzfest Date |publisher=MTVNews.com |date=2001-05-22 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref> held culpable by various media outlets,<ref>{{cite book |last= Jones |first= Steve |editor-first= Steve|editor-last= Jones |title= ''Pop music and the press'' |url= http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=N-ViwZnnR3oC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=Killers+worshipped+Rock+Freak&source=bl&ots=tvecTqUb_Q&sig=4FrcgZywEuZPP8UJxpxCbyP09Mo&hl=tl&ei=BDffTO-0CtHzcf7qmJcM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Killers%20worshipped%20Rock%20Freak&f=false |archiveurl= |archivedate= |accessdate=2010-11-14 |type= |edition= |series= |volume= |date= |year=2002 |month= |origyear= |publisher=''Temple University Press'' |location=Philadelphia |language=English |isbn= |oclc= |doi= |id= |pages=126-127}}</ref><ref name="autogenerated40"/> religious figures<ref>{{cite web|last=D'Angelo |first=Joe |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443825/20010517/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Colorado Governor, Congressman Support Anti-Manson Group |publisher=MTVNews.com |date=2001-05-21 |accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref>, pundits, civic groups<ref>{{cite web|last=Moore |first=Michael |url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzr3kHRq9Ts&feature=related |title=Outtake footage from [[Bowling for Columbine]] |publisher=Youtube user sicpit |date= |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref> and politicians<ref name="LAWeeklyPage1">{{cite web|last=Burk |first=Greg |url=http://www.laweekly.com/2001-01-18/news/marilyn-a-re-examination/ |title=Marilyn:A Re-Examination (page 1) |publisher=''[[LA Weekly]]'' |date=2001-01-18 |accessdate=2010-11-22}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/media/clips/windowsmedia.php?Clip=manson1021LG |title=Marilyn Manson Interview on Bowling for Columbine |publisher=[http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/index.php Bowling for Columbine Official Website] |date=2002-10-11 |accessdate=2010-11-15}}</ref> who made [[sensationalism|sensational]] allegations that the band's music and imagery drove [[Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold]] to kill their classmates<ref name="Long"/> despite later reports to the contrary; that the two actually considered them "a joke".<ref>{{cite web|last=Holland |first=Meegan |url=http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/04/separating_myth_from_fact_on.html |title=Columbine High School massacre on 10th anniversary: 5 myths surrounding deadliest school attack in U.S. history |publisher=''[[The Grand Rapids Press]]'' |date=2009-04-20 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Cullen |first=Dave |url=http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/index.html |title=Inside the Columbine High investigation |publisher=''Salon'' |date=1999-09-23 |accessdate=2010-08-15}}</ref><ref name="autogenerated40"/><ref name="LAWeeklyPage2"/> Consequently, much of the album's content addresses the issue and articulates on American society's common obsession with firearms, religion, and media martyrs by appropriating criticism on what Manson sees as the three core ideals [[conservative]] [[Christianity in America|Christian America]] hold above all else, "'''Guns, God and Government'''".<ref>{{cite journal |author=Jeff Perlah |date=01 |year=2000 |month=October |title=Marilyn Manson: The Wizard of Odd |trans_title= |journal=Onstage Magazine |volume= |series= |issue= |page= |pages= |url=http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=46&releaseid=8615&magazinearticleid=122340 |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |language=English |accessdate=2010-08-22}}</ref><ref name="LAWeeklyPage2"/> [[Family values|Parents]] and the [[news media]] are also attacked for the more harmful roles they play in the glorification and acceptance of wholesale [[violence]] in "[[mainstream]]" culture in comparison to [[Media violence research|music, movies, books]] or [[Video game controversy|video games]].<ref name="Robinson">{{cite web|last=Robinson |first=Charlotte |url=http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/m/mansonmarilyn-holywood.shtml |title=Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) album review |publisher=''PopMatters'' |date=2000-12-14 |accessdate=2010-08-22}}</ref><ref name="Long"/>
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| − | As a concept album, ''Holy Wood'''s plot is a thinly-veiled satire of modern America centered on its ill-fated protagonist "[[Adam Kadmon]]". Kadmon is an idealistic abstract figure borrowed from the [[Kabbalah]] where he is described as the "Primal Man" or, in the similar [[Sufi]]c and [[Alevi]] philosophy, "Perfect or Complete Man""; the very archetype for humanity.<ref name="metroactive.com"/> Disillusionment takes over the protagonist, however, as he watches humanity consumed by Holy Wood's ideology of ''<nowiki>'</nowiki>[[Cultural conservatism|Guns, God and Government]]<nowiki>'</nowiki>'' into a culture of death and fame that holds celebrity-worship, violence and scapegoatism as moral values and [[martyrdom]] has become religion — a religion that [[Posthumous fame|canonize dead celebrities into saints]] and idolize [[JFK|'Jack' Kennedy]] as the [[Transfiguration of Jesus|transfigured]]'' '[[Lamb of God]]' ''and modern-day Christ. Deliberately a parallel of [[Christianity]] and a critique of both American [[celebrity culture]] and of [[Jesus Christ]]'s own role as the [[Crucifixion of Jesus|blueprint]] of that culture and the ''[[Posthumous fame|'Dead Rock Star']]'' martyr/celebrity phenomenon,<ref>{{cite book |last= Manson |first= Marilyn |title= The Dead Rock Star |archiveurl= |archivedate= |accessdate=2010-11-17 |type=op-ed essay |edition= |series= |volume= |date= |year=2002 |month= |origyear= |publisher=''[[Rolling Stone]]'' magazine |location= |language=English}}</ref> this religion is named "[[Celebritarian Corporation|Celebritarianism]]".<ref name="Robinson"/> In Manson's own words, "'Holy Wood' — which isn't even that great of a hyperbole of America — is a place where an [[obituary]] is just another headline. Where if you die and enough people are watching, then you're famous."<ref name="AP#148"/> The ''Guns, God and Government'' world tour that supported the album expanded on this with the tour's logo — a rifle and handguns arranged to resemble the [[Christian cross]]. Much like in ''Mechanical Animals'', another lesser character is found in "Coma Black". Similar to the character of "[[Coma White]]" from the previous album, Coma Black is an obscure figure which, simultaneously, may or may not be an unattainable ideal, an androgynous facet of Adam or an actual person.<ref name="metroactive.com">{{cite web|last=Quelland |first=Sarah |url=http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.14.00/cover/manson-0050.html |title=Into the Mind of Marilyn |publisher=''Metroactive Music'' |date=2000-12-14 |accessdate=2010-08-10}}</ref>
| + | ::I'll let you place it where ever you would like it. [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 07:58, 25 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | The album makes numerous confrontational references to events and figures in pop culture history to audit everyone's participating role in creating the culture that culminated in ''Columbine''. With an eye toward their implications and ramifications, the vast number of these allusions primarily drew from the cultural impact of the tumultuous and defining [[Cold War]] period of 1960s America.<ref name="VH1.com"/> A substantial amount of the record is devoted to a cultural analysis of [[Abraham Zapruder]]'s [[Zapruder Film|film]] of the [[JFK Assassination]]<ref name="VH1.com"/>, on which Manson has commented, "To me, that's the only thing that's happened in modern times to equal the crucifixion of Christ"<ref name="AP#148"/> and further sarcastically described in an op-ed piece for ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' as "[a] good clip of mankind’s generosity to share his violence with the world in such a cinematic way."<ref>{{cite book |last= Manson |first= Marilyn |title= Last Poll Of The Century |archiveurl= |archivedate= |accessdate=2010-11-17 |type=op-ed essay |edition=Millennium Special |series= |volume= |date= |year=1999 |month=Dec 15 |origyear= |publisher=''[[Rolling Stone]]'' magazine |location= |language=English}}</ref> The death of notable author and intellectual [[Aldous Huxley]] on the same day is also brought up — a fact buried in newspapers the following morning because JFK's greater celebrity gave his assassination top-billing in the headlines — and subsequently deplored with a quip often attributed to [[Joseph Stalin]], "One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic". The record further drew parallels with what Manson saw as the climate of fear directed against [[youth culture]] in the 1990's and the [[Altamont Free Concert]] tragedy which brought an abrupt and violent end to the '[[Sexual revolution|love generation]]', identifying the latter as the point that cemented America's fear of its own children.<ref name="VH1.com"/>
| + | :::Thanks. I'm curious though, what privileges does this new position come with? -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 08:10, 25 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| + | ::::Here is the list of [[Special:ListGroupRights|User group rights]], you also have access to the crew forums - [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 08:24, 25 May 2011 (CDT) |
| − | Allegories in the album to [[The Beatles]]' ''[[White Album]]'' and the [[Charles Manson murders]]<ref name="VH1.com"/> are especially significant regarding an issue brought up in the wake of ''Columbine'' — [[Anti-mimesis|anti-mimesis or ''life imitating art)'']], since the ''White Album'' was thought to have played a key role in the Tate/LaBianca murder case when news media reported that [[Charles Manson]] took inspiration from his misreading of the record, resulting in his infamous ''[[Helter Skelter (Manson scenario)|Helter Skelter]]'' manifesto. Marilyn Manson observed that the [[Helter Skelter (song)|Beatles song of the same name]] ""was the first piece of music to be blamed and associated with violence".<ref name="VH1.com">{{cite web|last=Saidman |first=Sorelle |url=http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1124176/20000918/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Unveils Tour Plans, First Single For Holy Wood |publisher=MTV News Online (latterly [[VH1]].com) |date=2000-09-18 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref> In this sense, the rock singer drew parallels with the ''White Album''; both him and it have been used as a scapegoat by a traumatized, knee-jerk reactionary American public and both expound on America's obsession with guns and violence and addresses the political concepts of [[evolution]] and [[revolution]].<ref name="metroactive.com"/> Most critically, however, the record puts a spotlight on the universal phenomenon of the press 'canonizing' people into media martyrdom in TV or print by turning their death into a vulturistic overexposed spectacle. He cites, as examples, icons of American assassination such as [[John Lennon]], [[JFK|John F. Kennedy]] and [[Jesus Christ]] who have attained cult-of-personality celebrity-worship as a result.<ref name="metroactive.com"/> Of Kennedy and Christ's martyrdom he opines,
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| + | ::::Did you take a look at the crew forum yet? There are a few things there that you might want to contribute to :) [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 05:42, 27 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | When [[Bill O'Reilly (political commentator)|Bill O'Reilly]] suggested, in an interview on the ''[[O'Reilly Factor]]'', that 'disturbed' kids could misinterpret certain lyrics in his songs to mean "[[Posthumous fame|when I'm dead everybody's going to know me]]", Manson replied by tying the aforementioned observations to ''Columbine'',
| + | :::::The Crew forum is located at the bottom under Staff, I'm particularly interested in having input into the latest interview we have been invited to conduct. [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 08:36, 27 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | {{cquote|Well I think that's a very valid point and I think that it's a reflection of, not necessarily this programme but of television in general, that if you die and enough people are watching you become a martyr, you become a hero, you become well known. So when you have these things like ''Columbine'', and you have these kids who are angry and they have something to say and no one's listening, the [[news media]] sends a message that says if you do something loud enough and it gets our attention then you ''will'' be famous for it.
| + | :::::This is embarrassing. I still can't find it. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 09:16, 27 May 2011 (CDT) |
| | + | ::::::My fault, you seem to have two accounts on the forums and I changed permissions for the wrong one, try now[[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 09:59, 27 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Those kids ended up on the cover of ''[[Time magazine|Time]]'' magazine, the news media [and the American audience] gave them exactly what they wanted. That's why I never did any interviews around that time when I was being blamed for it because I didn't want to contribute to something that I found to be reprehensible.|4=[[Marilyn Manson]] |5=Marilyn Manson on the O'Reilly Factor<ref>{{cite web|last= |first= |url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,32588,00.html |title=Partial transcript of Marilyn Manson on the O'Reilly Factor |publisher=[[FOXNews]].com |date=2001-08-28 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref>}}
| + | ::::::Found it. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 10:01, 27 May 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | ==Packaging==
| + | You don't need to manually input each file for the albums, just upload a new version of the file. [[User:Osiris|Osiris]] 07:24, 7 June 2011 (CDT) |
| − | Like ''Antichrist Superstar'', the album also utilizes a compositional device called the [[song cycle]] structure dividing ''Holy Wood'' into four sections which form the framework and outline of Kadmon's story: A: In the Shadow, D: The Androgyne, A: Of Red Earth and M: The Fallen.
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| − | The album's cover, which portrayed Manson in a crucified pose with a missing jaw as a dual statement on [[censorship]] and America's obsession with media martyrs,<ref name="metroactive.com"/> generated minor controversy upon release and had to be offered with a cardboard sleeve featuring an alternative cover due to some retailers refusing to stock the album with the original artwork. Manson described the move as "censorship" and stated that "those who seek to censor my album cover have successfully proven [the] point [of the image]."<ref name="autogenerated40"/>
| + | Why do you keep manually changing the album artwork in each article. All you have to do is go to the page file and upload a new version of the file. [[User:Osiris|Osiris]] 07:40, 7 June 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | ==Book and film==
| + | :This is fine by me. I need a mindless task to clear my head tonight. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 07:43, 7 June 2011 (CDT) |
| − | {{See|Holy Wood (novel)}}
| + | ::Don't mind what you're doing but it makes it harder to see other edits in the recent changes o_O If you're looking for things to do we always need interviews added, you can skim current pages for spelling and grammatical errors, we could do with threads created on the forums some of the news items to encourage discussion and I have more if you get bored with those suggestions :p [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] |
| − | The album was originally to be accompanied by a [[Holy Wood (novel)|book]] and a film of the same name which were to further explore the album's backstory.<ref name="autogenerated40"/><ref>{{cite web|last=Norris |first=John |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431696/19991124/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson To Probe Celebrity And Suffering In New Film, Next Album |publisher=MTVNews |date=1999-11-24|accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref> In an interview with Manson in December 2000, [[Chuck Palahniuk]] briefly mentions the book and compliments its style, adding it is due for release "next spring".<ref>{{cite journal |author=Chuck Palahniuk |date= |year=2000-2001 |month=Dec-Jan |title=Destiny's Child |trans_title= |journal=[[Gear (magazine)|Gear Magazine]] |volume= |series= |issue= |page=73 |pages= |at= |chapter= |location= |publisher= |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |language=English |accessdate=2010-12-02}}</ref> The book has yet to be released, allegedly due to a publishing dispute,<ref>{{cite journal|year=2005 |month=February |title=Alien Autopsy: Marilyn Manson and [[David Duchovny]] on [[Area 51 (2005 video game)|Area 51]] |trans_title= |journal=[[Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine]] |volume= |series= |issue= |page= |pages= |at= |chapter= |location= |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |language=English |accessdate=2010-12-02}}</ref> and the film never began production.
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| − | ==Guns, God and Government Tour==
| + | :::There are a couple of paintings that have yet to have pages created for them too. :) [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin]] 08:09, 7 June 2011 (CDT) |
| − | {{Main|Guns, God and Government Tour}}
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| − | In support of the album, Marilyn Manson launched the Guns, God and Government Tour, which featured six legs and a total of 125 shows.<ref name="LAWeeklyPage2">{{cite web|last=Burk |first=Greg |url=http://www.laweekly.com/2001-01-18/news/marilyn-a-re-examination/2/ |title=Marilyn:A Re-Examination (page 2) |publisher=''[[LA Weekly]]'' |date=2001-01-18 |accessdate=2010-08-22}}</ref> The ''[[Ozzfest]]'' leg of the tour is particularly notable since it marked Marilyn Manson's first performance in [[Mile High Stadium|Denver, Colorado]] (on June 22, 2001) since ''Columbine''. Predictably, the band met heavy resistance from conservative groups with the performer receiving numerous [[death threat]]s and calls to skip the date.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=73792 |title=Marilyn Manson: 'I'm Always Going To Be Bad' |publisher=Blabbermouth.Net |date=2007-06-02 |accessdate=2010-11-20}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=70581 |title=Marilyn Manson: 'My Greatest Fear Has Always Been Not Being Able To Create' |publisher=Blabbermouth.Net |date=2007-04-15 |accessdate=2010-11-20}}</ref> The [[Christian]] organization ''Citizens for Peace and Respect'' asserted on their website that the band "promotes hate, violence, death, suicide, drug use, and the attitudes and actions of the Columbine killers".<ref name="coloradoantimanson">{{cite web|last=D'Angelo |first=Joe |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443825/20010517/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Colorado Governor, Congressman Support Anti-Manson Group |publisher=MTVNews.com |date=2001-05-21 |accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref> In response, Manson promised,
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| − | {{cquote|I will provide a show where I balance my songs with a wholesome Bible reading. This way, fans will not only hear my so-called 'violent' point of view, but we can examine the virtues of wonderful Christian stories of disease, murder, adultery, suicide and child sacrifice. Now that seems like 'entertainment' to me.|4=[[Marilyn Manson]]<ref name="coloradoantimanson"/>}}
| + | ==Protecting Pages== |
| | + | Just wondering why you're protecting pages? The wiki is supposed to be editable by anyone o_O The exception would be the main page, competition pages and interviews. [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 05:16, 24 June 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | The Denver show also provided the backdrop for Manson's landmark interview on [[gun violence]] and America's climate of fear in [[Michael Moore]]'s 2002 documentary ''[[Bowling for Columbine]]''.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/media/clips/windowsmedia.php?Clip=manson1021LG |title=Marilyn Manson Interview on Bowling for Columbine |publisher=[http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/index.php Bowling for Columbine Official Website] |date=2002-10-11 |accessdate=2010-11-15}}</ref>
| + | :If you noticed, vandals have taken on to the site recently. I'm just trying to prevent anymore of it. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 05:39, 25 June 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Three concert films depicting the tour, ''[[Guns, God and Government]]'', ''Guns, God and Government - Live in L.A.'', and ''The Death Parade'', were recorded.
| + | ::Understood, we usually just block the offender rather than limit access to pages [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 22:56, 25 June 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | ==Reception==
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| − | ===Critical reception===
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| − | The album received generally favorable reviews. It earned a collective score of 72% out of 100 from [[Metacritic]].<ref name="metacritic2000"/> Barry Walters from ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' commented that "The band truly rocks: Its malevolent groove fleshes out its leader's usual complaints with an exhilarating swagger that's the essence of rock & roll.... On Holy Wood, Manson is as ambitious, personal and heavy as he's ever been, but the album is not, as he has proclaimed, the band's White Album. The music of these L.A. scenesters, though still evolving, can't hope to match the Beatles' level of eclectic experimentation or melodicism."<ref>{{cite web|last=Walter |first= Barry |url=http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/7480/38009 |title=Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death) review |publisher=''[[Rolling Stone]]'' |date=2000-11-22 |accessdate=2010-11-22}}</ref> [[Stephen Thomas Erlewine]] of ''[[Allmusic]]'' commented that "Much of its charm lies in Manson trying so hard, perfecting details in the concept, lyrics, themes, production, sequencing, the tarot card parodies in the liner notes, the self-theft, the self-consciously blasphemous cover art. There's so much effort, Holy Wood winds up a stronger and more consistent album than any of his other work. If there's any problem, it's that Manson's shock rock seems a little quaint in 2000."<ref>{{cite web|last=Erlewine |first= Stephen Thomas|url=http://www.allmusic.com/album/holy-wood-in-the-shadow-of-the-valley-of-death-r506566/review |title=Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death) Enhanced review |publisher=[[Allmusic]].com |date= |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref> ''[[PopMatters]]'' commented: "The central flaw of Holy Wood is that the power of its message, an important and provocative one, is watered down by its artistic pretensions. While Holy Wood is often affecting, it would be a better album if it was shorter and dealt with its subject matter directly, instead of through the veil of the 'concept album'."<ref name="Robinson"/> Katherine Turman of ''[[Amazon.com|Amazon]]'' commented "The impact of Marilyn Manson's subversive musical agenda has waned, and what's left is a provocative, talented artist writing affecting, powerful, and yes, controversial songs...Rife with references to the Beatles and the Kennedys, and full of pop-culture barbs, Holy Wood is a musically diverse and powerful statement...Like Marilyn Manson the man, Holy Wood is intelligent, dynamic, and multifaceted, with myriad charms that are evident to the tuned-in listener."<ref>{{cite web|last=Turman |first= Katherine|url=http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Wood-Shadow-Valley-Death/dp/B000050ITX/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1289904690&sr=1-1 |title=Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death) [[Enhanced CD]] Editorial Review by Amazon.com |publisher=[[Amazon.com]] |date= |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref>
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| − | According to ''[[LA Weekly]]'', "Yeah, it's a party. And it's great rock music. Those who claim Manson "went back to Goth" and reclaimed Antichrist's noise after Mechanical proved too subtle for kids are only partly right. Okay, he virtually cloned his hit "The Beautiful People" in "Disposable Teens." And there are several familiar yell-and-stomp numbers on Holy Wood. But even those almost all contain a double-take chord change or a textural overdose or a mind-blowing bridge, and they'll be terroristic in concert. More important, there are a bunch of plain brilliant tracks where Manson anoints bits of rock history into his own church."<ref name="metacriticreviews">{{cite web|url=http://www.metacritic.com/music/holy-wood-in-the-shadow-of-the-valley-of-death/critic-reviews |title=Critic Reviews for Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) - Marilyn Manson |publisher=[[Metacritic]] |date= |accessdate=2010-11-22}}</ref> ''[[Billboard Magazine]]'' said, "Manson proves again that he's one of the most skilled lyricists in rock today." <ref name="metacriticreviews"/> ''[[DOTMusic]]'' commented "Where 'Holy Wood' does come together and threaten to transcend its at times cliched parts is in its clarity of vision. This is a lean, visceral album that is as tripwire lithe as its maker. Manson's also remembered to write some great pop-goth tunes this time out, nowhere more so than with first single 'Disposable Teens'."<ref name="metacriticreviews"/> ''Sonicnet'' commented "Nonetheless, while more ambitious than almost all of today's metal-flaked rock competition, the 19-track Holy Wood is not without its problems. On numbers such as "President Dead" and "Cruci-Fiction in Space," the band seems to be just rehashing old terrain. And, while The Wall may be a worthy role model, Manson and company don't quite have Pink Floyd's lyrical or musical range, adding to the rote feeling that troubles some of this overlong (60+ minutes) disc."<ref name="metacriticreviews"/> [[Robert Hilburn]] of the ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' commented "Manson can go on teasing his fan base with his Grand Guignol circus show, but it's hard to imagine in the age of [[Eminem]] and other hard-core rappers that he is still even in the Top 10 on parents' most-feared list. That makes him seem severely dated--and he doesn't do much to correct the impression. For someone with the ambition and possibly the talent to be the new [[David Bowie]], Manson appears resolved to settling for the new [[Alice Cooper]]. Manson is a smart, articulate, likable guy. He's too talented to be wasting his time chasing the ghost of Alice Cooper."<ref>{{cite web|last=Hilburn |first=Robert |url=http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jan/15/entertainment/ca-12501 |title=Marilyn's Moon on the Wane page. 1 |publisher=''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' |date=2001-01-15 |accessdate=2010-11-20}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Hilburn |first=Robert |url=http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jan/15/entertainment/ca-12501/2 |title=Marilyn's Moon on the Wane pg.02 |publisher=''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' |date=2001-01-15 |accessdate=2010-11-20}}</ref> In 2001, UK music magazine ''[[Kerrang!]]'' named ''Holy Wood'' the year's "Best Album" at their annual ''[[Kerrang! Awards]]''.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1513974.stm |title=Manson wins Kerrang! honour |publisher=[[BBC News]] |date=2001-08-28 |accessdate=2010-11-19}}</ref>
| + | ==MansonWik's Got Talent== |
| | + | Please visit the crew forum to view the entries for MansonWiki's Got Talent and vote for the final 5 [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 02:25, 27 June 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | ''[[Kerrang!]]'' published a 10th anniversary commemorative piece on the album in their November 10, 2010 issue called ''Screaming For Vengeance''<ref name="autogenerated40"/> in which they called the album "Manson's finest hour...A decade on, there has still not been as eloquent and savage a musical attack on the media and mainstream culture as Manson achieved with ''Holy Wood''...[It is] still scathingly relevant today." The article goes on to say, "...perhaps that's where ''Holy Wood'' achieved its greatest success. In deflecting the attention that was targeted at him back onto the [news] media, they reacted exactly as he knew they would: by blustering and further exposing their own inadequacies... The shame of it all, though, is that so little has changed. That the album is still so relevant today suggests it failed in its task of changing attitudes. That it exists at all, though, is a credit to a man who refused to sit and take it, but instead come out swinging."<ref name="autogenerated40"/>
| + | :Could you visit the voting thread again please. [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 03:42, 28 June 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | ===Commercial performance=== | + | == Campaign == |
| − | In the United States it debuted and peaked at No. 13 on the [[Billboard 200]] and was awarded gold status in March 2003 for selling more than 500,000 copies.<ref name="riaa">{{cite web|url=http://riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?resultpage=1&table=SEARCH_RESULTS&action=&title=Holy%20Wood&artist=Marilyn%20Manson&format=&debutLP=&category=&sex=&releaseDate=&requestNo=&type=&level=&label=&company=&certificationDate=&awardDescription=&catalogNo=&aSex=&rec_id=&charField=&gold=&platinum=&multiPlat=&level2=&certDate=&album=&id=&after=&before=&startMonth=1&endMonth=1&startYear=1958&endYear=2010&sort=Artist&perPage=25 |title=RIAA Database Search for Marilyn Manson |publisher=''Recording Industry Association of America'' |date= |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref>
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| − | ==Track listing==
| + | Here's the quote: https://www.hennesseyingalls.com/hennessey/product.asp?s_id=0&pf_id=B005J24ZHS --[[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 12:41, 28 August 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | | headline = A: In the Shadow
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| − | | all_lyrics = Manson<ref name="Amazon">{{cite web|url=http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Wood-Shadow-Valley-Death/dp/B000050ITX/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1289904690&sr=1-1 |title=Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death) Enhanced|publisher=[[Amazon.com]]|accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref>
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| − | | title1 = GodEatGod
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| − | | music1 = Manson
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| − | | length1 = 2:34
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| − | | title2 = The Love Song
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| − | | music2 = [[Jeordie White|Ramirez]], [[John 5 (guitarist)|5]]
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| − | | length2 = 3:16
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| − | | title3 = [[The Fight Song (Marilyn Manson song)|The Fight Song]] | + | |
| − | | music3 = 5
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| − | | length3 = 2:55
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| − | | title4 = [[Disposable Teens]]
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| − | | music4 = 5, Ramirez
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| − | | length4 = 3:01
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| − | | headline = D: The Androgyne
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| − | | title5 = Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis)
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| − | | music5 = Ramirez, 5
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| − | | length5 = 4:18
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| − | | title6 = "President Dead"
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| − | | music6 = Ramirez, 5, [[Madonna Wayne Gacy|Gacy]]
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| − | | length6 = 3:13
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| − | | title7 = In the Shadow of the Valley of Death
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| − | | music7 = Ramirez, 5
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| − | | length7 = 4:09
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| − | | title8 = Cruci-Fiction in Space
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| − | | music8 = Ramirez, 5, Gacy
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| − | | length8 = 4:56
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| − | | title9 = A Place in the Dirt
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| − | | music9 = 5
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| − | | length9 = 3:37
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| − | | headline = A: Of Red Earth
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| − | | title10 = [[The Nobodies (song)|The Nobodies]]
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| − | | music10 = 5, Manson
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| − | | length10 = 3:35
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| − | | title11 = The Death Song
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| − | | music11 = 5, Manson
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| − | | length11 = 3:29
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| − | | title12 = Lamb of God
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| − | | music12 = Ramirez
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| − | | length12 = 4:39
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| − | | title13 = Born Again
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| − | | music13 = Ramirez, 5
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| − | | length13 = 3:20
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| − | | title14 = Burning Flag
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| − | | music14 = Ramirez, 5
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| − | | length14 = 3:21
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| − | | headline = M: The Fallen
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| − | | title15 = Coma Black
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| − | | music15 = Manson, 5, Ramirez
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| − | | length15 = 5:58
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| − | | title16 = Valentine's Day
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| − | | music16 = Ramirez, Manson
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| − | | length16 = 3:31
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| − | | title17 = The Fall of Adam
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| − | | music17 = Ramirez, 5
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| − | | length17 = 2:34
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| − | | title18 = King Kill 33º
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| − | | music18 = Ramirez
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| − | | length18 = 2:18
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| − | | title19 = Count to Six and Die (The Vacuum of Infinite Space Encompassing)
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| − | | music19 = 5
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| − | | length19 = 3:24
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| − | | headline = Bonus tracks
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| − | | title20 = The Nobodies (Acoustic Version)
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| − | | note20 = Japan/UK editions only
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| − | | length20 = 3:35
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| − | | music20 = 5
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| − | | title21 = Mechanical Animals (Live)
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| − | | note21 = Japan edition only
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| − | *The disc contains a [[Mixed Mode CD|data track]] which leads to a video no longer hosted by Interscope's website. <ref name="Amazon"/> This video was later included as a secret track on the companion DVD of ''[[Lest We Forget: The Best Of|Lest We Forget]]''.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.amazon.com/Lest-We-Forget-Best-Bonus/dp/B0002Y4T4W/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1289904991&sr=1-3 |title=Lest We Forget: The Best of (Bonus Dvd) (Coll) Explicit Lyrics |publisher=[[Amazon.com]]|accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref>
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| − | ==Charts, certifications and procession==
| + | :Red Marquis, the article was not complete. As you should know, by way of my requests to you for sources, I'm well aware of the requirement to write an article. However time did not allow. The wiki is a work in progress as you know. But seeing as you have completed it already, I thank you. BTW....Tone down the attitude in the shoutbox. Thanks [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 15:04, 28 August 2011 (CDT) |
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| + | ::Sorry about that and thanks for the thanks. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 15:08, 28 August 2011 (CDT) |
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| + | :::Nice to know you're on to things ;) [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 15:13, 28 August 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | !Position<br><ref name="Billboard Holy Wood charting">[http://www.billboard.com/#/album/marilyn-manson/holy-wood-in-the-shadow-of-the-valley-of/452213 Billboard 200 and Canadian Albums charting]. billboard.com. Retrieved 2010-09-18.</ref><ref>[http://www.allmusic.com/album/holy-wood-in-the-shadow-of-the-valley-of-death-r506566/charts-awards/billboard-album Allmusic Billboard charts & awards]. ''Allmusic''. Retrieved 2010-11-17.</ref>
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| − | ;Marilyn Manson<ref name="allcredits">{{cite web|url=http://www.allmusic.com/album/holy-wood-in-the-shadow-of-the-valley-of-death-r506566/credits |title=Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) credits |publisher=''[[Allmusic]]''|accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref>
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| − | *[[Marilyn Manson]] — arranger, vocals, producer, art direction, concept, syncussion, [[optigan]], [[mellotron]], distorted flute, synth bass, keyboards, piano, pianette, ambiance, electric harpsichord, rhythm guitar
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| − | *[[Jeordie White|Twiggy Ramirez]] — bass, guitar (rhythm, lead, [[Leslie speaker|Leslie]], warped), keyboards
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| − | *[[John Lowery|John 5]] — guitar (lead, rhythm, acoustic, synth, electric, slide, phase)
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| − | *[[Madonna Wayne Gacy]] — synths, ambiance, keyboards, samples, bass synth, synth strings, [[mellotron]], "Children's choir and canned laughter of dead people unsure of why they are laughing"
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| − | *[[Ginger Fish]] — drums (live, drum machine), death & siren loops, keyboards
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| − | *[[Bon Harris]] of [[Nitzer Ebb]] — synthesizers, programming, pre-production editing, organic drum programming, bass, keyboard, "Insect hi-hat", sleigh bells, (destructive) manipulation, electronics, piano
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| − | *Paulie Northfield — additional engineering
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| − | *[[David Sardy|D. Sardy (Dave Sardy)]] —- producer, synths, (organic) drum programming, mixing, noise rhythm guitar, "pills"
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| − | *[[P.R. Brown]] — art direction, design, photography
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| − | *Joe Zook — assistant engineer
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Fuck...
There must be a bug somewhere, I had the same problem with an image gallery disappearing, We'll sort it out.
[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin 18:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello, please know you are welcome here to edit the wiki. However, please do not copy paste directly from wikipedia. We encourage editors to write in their own words. Also, your direct copy paste to the Holy Wood article removed links that were relevant here. Thanks ‡-me-‡ 11:38, 8 August 2010 (UTC) (Admin)
While your content is well written, Readers should not have to be armed with a dictionary in order to understand the points you are attempting to portray. Example: "by the kratocratic plutarchy" just as an example. [god]speed -MansonWiki Admin 12:07, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for adding these :) It was just the other day that I added them to my "to do" list :P ‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin 13:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Red, I've been watching your edits and I'm becoming increasingly concerned as the the analytical nature of what you have to add. As mentioned before, we try to strictly avoid analysis and theory as I'm sure you can understand, these things are largely interpretive. We generally like to provide information with references and I've yet to see any? Your contributions are well written as always and it's not that we don't appreciate or understand the concepts that you are discussing by any means, I personally have been very much into interpretation and analysis of Manson's work. However, being an encyclopedic data base, there isn't much room for them. For example: It is written within the Holy Wood concept the "Winter of Discontent" (and its resolution on Valentine's Day), how so? And do you know where this lyric was taken from and why it was used? Or is this your interpretation? If so, I'm sure you can understand that these things are probably best left for private essays or analysis threads. ‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin 08:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
In recognition of your contributions, we would like to invite you to become a senior editor at Manson Wiki, you now have moderator status on the wiki forums and are able to access the admin sections there :) Harlequin 07:05, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
You don't need to manually input each file for the albums, just upload a new version of the file. Osiris 07:24, 7 June 2011 (CDT)
Why do you keep manually changing the album artwork in each article. All you have to do is go to the page file and upload a new version of the file. Osiris 07:40, 7 June 2011 (CDT)
Just wondering why you're protecting pages? The wiki is supposed to be editable by anyone o_O The exception would be the main page, competition pages and interviews. Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin 05:16, 24 June 2011 (CDT)
