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Revision as of 09:06, 2 March 2010
Mansonusa.com, by visitors mainly known as The Heirophant or The 'Phant, was a major Marilyn Manson fansite. The website was founded in 2001, and was run by Alex Henken, known to the Manson Community as Filicide, who became an associate of Marilyn Manson due to the site's popularity among fans. The Heirophant Council Forum and it's administration team was notorious for criticizing both Manson and his fans, which believed to be the cause of it's fall and thus led to the website being removed from the internet as of June of 2009, When MansonUSA stood it was one of the largest databases of Marilyn Manson information. The disappearance of MansonUSA left many fans without a community, in turn a stronger more united online community developed on BABALON & Provider Module forums.
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Interviews
Due to popularity, personal interviews with Manson were conducted via the phone and e-mail before the fall out between Manson and the administration team
You may now find these interviews in the MansonWiki archives:
MansonUSA's demise
Following the demise of the Heirophant Council, Nick Kushner, Owner of The Nachtkabarett and creator of the official message board BABALON issued a statement on what led to the demise of Manson USA.
Friday, June 19th, 2009 - 11:51 AM
this is not an official statement from Manson but rather informing many of you on some current events. a five page grocery list in small type of further reasons for this could be discussed, but won't. at current. however should various parties continue to fuck with Manson without provocation (not even including everything done and said about myself for no reason over the past 4 years, and am remaining objective in this situation) such information may be addressed in a public light. a brief statement though is in order before the Katrina shit-storm is full under way.
whether it was genuine or merely a sympathy ploy to "leave" and "sell" the domain name Mansonusa.com, it had become readily apparent that the site owners and administrators were using it for nothing more than an invisible mouthpiece as public slander and defamation against Manson, exploiting his very name (ie - MANSONusa.com) to accomplish this. for example, it's clever enough to tag over 200 threads with the byline of "(Manson does coke)", deliberately using parentheses so that in every such thread it will be the first to appear. but the story rings quite differently when each and every thread pertaining to the new tour contains the tagline "ihopetheyshoothimonstage". when this is directed towards an artist who HAS had thousands of death threats and who has had friends who have actually been shot onstage, ie - Dimebag Darrell, what may be construed as tongue-in-cheek had slowly escalated and reached the point of crossing the line and had become what is absolutely libelous and criminal. and in a court of law ; absolutely yes. let's remember, all it took was a neighbor's fucking dog barking allegedly Satanic messages for David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz to kill and wound 13 people throughout New York City in the late 70's.
in the past 24 hours the said site moderators and administrators had apparently gotten wise to the gravity of these implications and had changed "(Manson does coke)" to "(Manzin drinks diet coke)". cute and quaint, yes, but this was nothing more than a coy and disingenuous temporary (and poor) reneging on something which they themselves started. all of this and hundreds more has been documented and screen captured, time-stamps included, with who posted what if any of this ever becomes required for future use.
the internet is not a toy which one can sit reclined at their leather deskchair with a pizza in one hand, a diet coke on the table, in their underwear and continually harass under the assumed cloak of anonymity. even aside from it being documented and fully apparent who was behind this current situation. you do not need a million dollars or be a rockstar either, you only have to know your rights and realize when others begin to feignly believe they have the right to infringe upon your's. this was a case of using Manson's name, image and art, along with a status previously entrusted to the site administrators out of good faith which was was only abused by using that status(which was obtained by links, search engine placement, interviews and traffic directed towards to site, ect) for the purpose of public defamation, threats and attempt to steer the entire fan community toward a negative bias against the artist whom they were gathered to venerate, allegedly at one point. one needs only browse a handful of random threads there to realize this was the case but this by no means will imply that Manson has any ill feelings towards the many, many, many fans there who were 110% genuine. unfortunately the bullies ran the broken down playground when there was little elsewhere to play.discussion on this matter will remain closed, as to prevent this from devolving from vindication into a bitch pissing contest, and further statements, if deemed necessary to occur, should only be from Manson himself and not you or i. furthermore, expect a 'Message Board' link to appear on MarilynManson.com which will direct to our new home here.
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Trivia
- The site was rumoured to have been personally shutdown by Marilyn Manson, due to complete and utter disrespect from members of the administration team.
