Talk:2010-2013 Born Villain Imagery

M1shael, Please be sure to add any new photos that come from Myspace on here to the Myspace/Facebook Image Gallery as well. [god]speed -MansonWiki Admin 03:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

It's ridiculous to archive the Facebook and Myspace images here as well. It's just doubling up. You dont even have galleries for MM.com. So i'm going to remove the myspace and face book and add the MM.com galleries which are growing more and more.

[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin 06:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Aaron, I don't like your idea because MySpace and Facebook photos have a big significance to the users. They check this pages every day for the new photos as we know. So... We can't delete this galleries. I think we should make this thing like this:

 == Social Networks ==
 (Official photos from web sources)

 === MySpace ===
 (Only 10 last images)
 === Facebook ===
 (Only 10 last images)
 === Marilyn Manson.com ===
 (Maybe we should sorting photos by the photographer?)

 == Promotional ==
 (Promo photos of Manson by a lot of photographer)

 === PEROU ===
 === Ashley Walters ===
 === Lindsay Usich ===
 === Anthony Silva ===
 === John Mayer ===
 

Also I don't know what we can do with photos like Darkman, Jojo appearance, etc. --M1shael 07:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah mine was just a rough idea. Myspace/ Facebook should be below Manson.com which are sorted by Ashley Walters and Perou in the galleries I have above. Dunno what to do about the single images either, other than to put them in a single gallery?[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin

• See what you think of it now. I re-added the Myspace / Facebook gallery

Why would you put Myspace and facebook above the MM.com images? The MM.com images are newer and it seems he's going to using the site and blog to upload new pics. Secondly, If people click on the myspace gallery original article then come to this page they are going to think its the same page, So why not have them below where i had them before.

Please give me freedom of action with this problem. Manson puts his new photos very often, but official site updates with the new photos time to time. That's why I put MySpace and Facebook galleries above the official site. Please, launch my version of this gallery. I think we don't need any changes to the "Promotional" section, only "Social Networks" adds. --M1shael 08:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

NO!!! Why do you centering the titles? I don't think it's looks great... :( --M1shael 08:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I think the centered titles make it look better considering the galleries are centered. Also people have seen the myspace images, they may not have seen the MM.com ones. And who's to say that he wont be adding more photos to the official site. He just now started using the blog.

You just kills 6 months of my work. Thanks. :( --M1shael 08:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

How? By moving the Myspace and Facebook to the bottom?

no. by creating new sections. and centering. i don't like the centering. --M1shael 08:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, personally I think we should head to the forum and have a discussion about how exactly we're wanting to display these images. We have 2010 - 2011 imagery, the page is huge and we're not even into 2011 yet. I think some of these should be archived maybe? Just a thought for now, but one thing is for sure, we all need to be on the same page as to how we want to display imagery here. ;) ‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin 08:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

• New section for Marilyn Manson.com photos.

You aren't looking into the future. The new era hasnt even begun yet and there is already no more room on this page. What about 5 months from now when the band is promoting the album, doing signings, guest appearances on Talk Shows, and all of that? [god]speed -MansonWiki Admin 08:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Paparazzi pics

Sorry M1shael, but I'm going to delete the latest paparazzi pics. I looked at the youtube and it seems obvious that these were not wanted pictures and that he wanted some privacy. Candid images are okay but with in reason and if they're of a decent quality. I think we have enough of these kind of shots for now, I'd prefer to focus on maintaining the integrity of the site and avoiding the desperate snaps of paparazzi on the streets. Hopefully we'll have some quality promotional images soon that we can use and be proud of. ;) ‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin 08:03, 16 February 2011 (CST)

Well... I think that censorship in our site is not a good idea. Why we should delete those pictures? Manson don't give a shit about his photos on the web. As you know we have the largest and fast updating 2010-2011 gallery and a lot of people check this article everyday to see the new photos. MMWiki have a great view points due to this gallery. If we will start to delete or censor images, someone else will create another gallery and we will not be demand as today.

I belve that we will have a lot of promotional photos very soon, but currently we have paparazzi photos. If you think that paparazzi pics is spoil the dignity of the MMWiki, you can delete the whole gallery because these images are unlicensed... If our gallery will be deleted, someone else will make another one and it will be successful. So I would like to back images to the article. We should have every Manson's appearance during 2010-2011. Thank you. --M1shael 09:19, 16 February 2011 (CST)

I watched the youtube that the images came from, Ashley clearly puts her hand over his face and he clearly flips the visor so that he can avoid being photographed. I don't agree with censorship either, but there's a line of respecting privacy that I wont cross. The quality of the images were not that great either and they're all starting to look the same in my opinion. While I appreciate that people check here regularly I'd prefer to offer them quality images not those from snap hungry paparazzi who quite clearly cant take a hint. ‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin 09:31, 16 February 2011 (CST)

I agree that he looks very dissatisfied but what is the problem? He will never see those pictures as well. I'm disappointed. It's the first time when the images was deleted due to private reasons. How can I be sure that you will not delete the next paparazzi photos due to the another reasons? I don't like this situation... --M1shael 09:40, 16 February 2011 (CST)

While I can understand the notion of having a nice gallery that is updated frequently, I don't think that paparazzi photos of the side of Manson's face through a car window is really anything that fans can't live without. I appreciate the fact that you are on top of new imagery and undoubtedly the new era imagery gallery does get quite a few views, But I think most of the fans are more than likely checking in to see if any actual imagery from the new era is out yet. I feel like I've seen the same pictures for the past six months. Manson wearing a black t-shirt maybe a hat, side of his face, or in a car. It would be different for example when he was hosting the Halloween party in Vegas or at an event like the art exhibit for Kunsthalle Wien. But it just seems like it's starting to get to the point where the gallery resembles Perez Hilton. Don't get upset over it Mishael, You've done a good job, but let's not get to the point where we have photos just to have every single photo. Godspeed MansonWiki Admin 11:41, 16 February 2011 (CST)

200px

I want to have every photo on this website. If someone don't like this kind of photos they can feel free to close the page and go to another site. We have two sections that you make: Appearances and Sightings. Appearances is the most popular section along with promos, but you has made a paparazzi section for die hard fans. A lot of people saving the photos from our site and post it on youtube as slideshows, etc. Every fan site linking our gallery via their news articles. We have a good views as I said. Just take a look at the image. --M1shael 09:54, 16 February 2011 (CST)

Well if you want to have every photo then you should start with obtaining images of the past eras, which there are tons of that we are missing. Mechanical Animals has maybe 25 images for the entire era? Easily one of his most photogenic eras and it's severely lacking. Screenshots off of youtube hardly qualify as imagery. [g]S

We are talking about the current gallery which is the most popular today. I know that we have a small galleries of that eras, but our viewers already seen a lot of the past pictures. They need a fresh pics which we putting to article. --M1shael 10:17, 16 February 2011 (CST)

Is he really crying? My apologizes. --M1shael 20:22, 17 February 2011 (CST)

Is this latest appearance ok? I think he is very funny at that video and we can save these images in our gallery. --M1shael 07:20, 22 February 2011 (CST)

Why not just make a video archive for paparazzi shots instead of taking low resolution screenshots?[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin 07:40, 22 February 2011 (CST)