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* [[Sara Lee Lucas]] – drums ([[Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids' August 11, 1991 performance|August 11, 1991]]–conclusion) | * [[Sara Lee Lucas]] – drums ([[Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids' August 11, 1991 performance|August 11, 1991]]–conclusion) | ||
− | After the band's fourth show,<ref>[[Marilyn Manson]] claims in ''[[The Long Hard Road Out of Hell]]'' that [[Brian Tutunick]] and [[Perry Pandrea]] were fired after the band's second show, however flyers exist which promote two other shows between April 28 and June 1, 1990.</ref> which Manson has described as the band's "first real performance," keyboardist Perry Pandrea (Speck) and bassist Brian Tutunick (Bundy) were fired from Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids. For the next performance they were replaced by Stephen Bier (Gacy), who hadn't yet attained a keyboard so instead played with toy soldiers on stage,<ref name=" | + | After the band's fourth show,<ref>[[Marilyn Manson]] claims in ''[[The Long Hard Road Out of Hell]]'' that [[Brian Tutunick]] and [[Perry Pandrea]] were fired after the band's second show, however flyers exist which promote two other shows between April 28 and June 1, 1990.</ref> which Manson has described as the band's "first real performance," keyboardist Perry Pandrea (Speck) and bassist Brian Tutunick (Bundy) were fired from Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids. For the next performance they were replaced by Stephen Bier (Gacy), who hadn't yet attained a keyboard so instead played with toy soldiers on stage,<ref name="Armymen">{{cite book |last1=Manson |first1=Marilyn |last2=Strauss |first2=Neil |title=[[The Long Hard Road Out of Hell]] |date=1998-02-14 |publisher=ReganBooks |isbn=0-06-098746-4 |page=92}}</ref> and Gein. Interpol's Sam Fogarino was once offered a position in the band, however he declined, much to his father's disappointment.<ref name="SamFog">{{cite web|last=|first=|url=http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/4162949/Interpol-open-up |title=Interpol open up |work=Fairfax NZ News |publisher= |date=2010-09-24 |accessdate=2012-05-06}}</ref> Fogarino later arranged [[If I Was Your Vampire (Sam Fog Mix)|a remix]] of "[[If I Was Your Vampire]]" in 2007. |
==Songs== | ==Songs== |
Revision as of 17:53, 6 May 2012
Independent touring | ||
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Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids perform live for the first time. Left to right: Olivia Newton Bundy, Zsa Zsa Speck, Marilyn Manson and Daisy Berkowitz took the stage at Churchill's Hideaway in Fort Lauderdale. | ||
Tour by Marilyn Manson | ||
Start date | April 28, 1990 | |
End date | April 23, 1994 | |
Shows | 97 verified | |
Marilyn Manson tour chronology | ||
Independent touring (1990–1994) |
Self Destruct (1994) |
Before embarking on tours under the wing of a major label, Marilyn Manson spent several years performing independently in various Florida locations including Fort Lauderdale, Boca Raton, Miami Beach, Hallandale and Davie; only three shows are known to have been played outside Florida between April 28, 1990 and April 23, 1994. The band was allegedly payed over $300 more than the normal rate for their first gig at the Reunion Room.[1] This was due to Manson's "lesson number one in music-industry manipulation: If you act like a rock star, you will be treated like one."[1] The group billed themselves until August 1992 as Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids, after which the "Spooky Kids" moniker was dropped.
Lineup
- Marilyn Manson – vocals
- Daisy Berkowitz – guitar
- Olivia Newton Bundy – bass (April 28, 1990–June 1, 1990)
- Gidget Gein – bass (June 14, 1990–December 31, 1993)
- Twiggy Ramirez – bass (December 31, 1993–conclusion)
- Zsa Zsa Speck – keyboard (April 28, 1990–June 1, 1990)
- Madonna Wayne Gacy – keyboard (June 14, 1990–conclusion)
- Yamaha RX-8 drum machine – drums (April 28, 1990–August 5, 1991)
- Sara Lee Lucas – drums (August 11, 1991–conclusion)
After the band's fourth show,[2] which Manson has described as the band's "first real performance," keyboardist Perry Pandrea (Speck) and bassist Brian Tutunick (Bundy) were fired from Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids. For the next performance they were replaced by Stephen Bier (Gacy), who hadn't yet attained a keyboard so instead played with toy soldiers on stage,[3] and Gein. Interpol's Sam Fogarino was once offered a position in the band, however he declined, much to his father's disappointment.[4] Fogarino later arranged a remix of "If I Was Your Vampire" in 2007.
Songs
During the first two years of activity, Marilyn Manson primarily recorded the songs they were known to perform at Florida venues, some which would never be performed live again once the band found mainstream success. Popular performances included "Cake and Sodomy", "Learning to Swim", "White Knuckles", "Suicide Snowman", "Lunchbox", "Dope Hat", "My Monkey" and "Misery Machine". During production of the band's major label debut, Portrait of an American Family, Marilyn Manson's live setlist began to incorporate songs from their later demo cassettes and what would become their 1994 studio album, occasionally sampling Spooky Kids hotline voicemails at the beginning and conclusion of shows. Later setlists added "Get Your Gunn", "Filth", "Sweet Tooth", "Wrapped in Plastic", "Choklit Factory", "Thrift" and "Dune Buggy".
Stage antics
During the Spooky Kids era, girls covered in fake blood and animal masks were known to share stages with the band. Manson describes in The Long Hard Road Out of Hell a night where one woman ironed a Nazi flag onstage.[5] Cages and heads of dolls were also strewn across stages. At the band's July 11, 1990 performance, the first 10 people who attended the show with an X across their forehead received a limited Marilyn Manson milk chocolate bar.
Tour dates
Date | City | State | Venue | ||
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1 | April 28, 1990 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Churchill's Hideaway |
2 | May 3, 1990 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Reunion Room |
3 | May 30, 1990 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
4 | June 1, 1990 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Weekends |
5 | June 14, 1990 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Sinbads |
6 | June 27, 1990 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
7 | July 4, 1990 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Club Nu |
8 | July 11, 1990 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
9 | July 19, 1990 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
10 | July 27, 1990 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Reunion Room |
11 | August 11, 1990 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
12 | August 17, 1990 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Churchill's Hideaway |
13 | August 29, 1990 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
14 | September 13, 1990 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
15 | October 26, 1990 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Weekends |
16 | November 15, 1990 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
17 | December 14, 1990 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
18 | December 19, 1990 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
19 | December 27, 1990 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
20 | February 7, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
21 | February 21, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
22 | February 27, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
23 | March 21, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
24 | April 11, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Club Nu |
25 | April 26, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Reunion Room |
26 | May 1, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | The Institute |
27 | May 10, 1991 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Weekends |
28 | May 16, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Club Nu |
29 | May 30, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
30 | June 14, 1991 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Sinbads |
31 | June 27, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
32 | July 11, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
33 | July 19, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
34 | July 25, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Cameo Theatre |
35 | July 27, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Reunion Room |
36 | August 1, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
37 | August 5, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Reunion Room |
38 | August 11, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
39 | August 15, 1991 | Sunrise | Florida | Template:Country | Purple Grotto |
40 | August 17, 1991 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Weekends |
41 | August 29, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
42 | September 13, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
43 | September 29, 1991 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | The Round Up Davie |
44 | October 4, 1991 | Atlanta | Georgia | Template:Country | Club Roxy |
45 | October 9, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
46 | October 26, 1991 | Boca Raton | Florida | Template:Country | Weekends |
47 | November 24, 1991 | Template:Country | |||
48 | November 29, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
49 | December 4, 1991 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
50 | December 19, 1991 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
51 | December 27, 1991 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
52 | January 16, 1992 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
53 | January 17, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Rosebud's |
54 | February 1, 1992 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Button South |
55 | February 5, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
56 | February 16, 1992 | Coral Springs | Florida | Template:Country | Illusions |
57 | March 16, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Reunion Room |
58 | April 12, 1992 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
59 | April 18, 1992 | St. Petersburg | Florida | Template:Country | ACL Club |
60 | April 25, 1992 | St. Petersburg | Florida | Template:Country | ACL Club |
61 | April 26, 1992 | Tampa | Florida | Template:Country | Morrissound Studios |
62 | May 1, 1992 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | The Institute |
63 | May 1, 1992 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
64 | May 20, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
65 | May 30, 1992 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
66 | July 18, 1992 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
67 | July 23, 1992 | Template:Country | |||
68 | July 25, 1992 | Template:Country | |||
69 | July 31, 1992 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
70 | August 1, 1992 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
71 | August 12, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
72 | August 23, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Rosebud's |
73 | November 25, 1992 | Hallandale | Florida | Template:Country | Treehouse |
74 | December 2, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
75 | December 4, 1992 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
76 | December 31, 1992 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
77 | January 17, 1993 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Rosebud's |
78 | February 10, 1993 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
79 | February 24, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
80 | February 26, 1993 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
81 | March 12, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
82 | March 13, 1993 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Cactus Cantina |
83 | April 16, 1993 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
84 | April 17, 1993 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
85 | May 1, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
86 | September 17, 1993 | Miami Beach | Florida | Template:Country | Washington Square |
87 | September 18, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
88 | November 1, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
89 | December 4, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
90 | December 31, 1993 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
91 | January 1, 1994 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
92 | February 12, 1994 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
93 | February 24, 1994 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
94 | March 12, 1994 | Davie | Florida | Template:Country | Plus 5 |
95 | April 4, 1994 | San Francisco | California | Template:Country | |
96 | April 7, 1994 | Chicago | Illinois | Template:Country | Riviera Nightclub |
97 | April 23, 1994 | Fort Lauderdale | Florida | Template:Country | Squeeze |
There are a series of discrepancies with some tour dates listed online. Gein explains in the unauthorized documentary Demystifying the Devil that when he joined the band, he was with them for a few weeks before their performance on July 4, 1990.[6] Some sources state that Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids' first live performance was an unlisted date in 1989, and that their second show took place in November of the same year. These sources also include nine dates between their purported second show in 1989 and the July 4, 1990 show which Gein claimed to be one of his first live shows with the band. As the band did not play shows without a bassist, these mysterious nine dates following bassist Tutunick's termination and the live induction of Gein cannot exist. Other sources state that Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids' first live performance was on April 28, 1990, which supports Gein's account, because the second show and last with Pandrea and Tutunick took place only weeks before the show on July 4, 1990.
The exact location of the band's July 4, 1990 performance has been questioned. Former guitarist Scott Putesky (Berkowitz) claimed the performance took place at Club Nu in Miami Beach, Florida, and was the first for both Gein and Bier,[7] though alternatively, Gein mentioned that it took place at the back of a trailer in a local trailer park.[6]
References
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