Editing Interview:2017/09/22 Marilyn Manson: The most famous Satanist in the world talks politics, family and collecting human skeletons
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| − | :'''He likes | + | :'''He likes Johnny Depp, William S Burroughs and collecting illegal human skeletons. He dislikes birthday parties, getting up early and wants to blow up everyone at his funeral. He’s Marilyn Manson and he’s back with a new album.''' |
| − | “I wanna look like I’m dead but people still wanna f**k me,” drawls Marilyn Manson in a voice deeper and darker than a freshly dug grave. We’re in a dim Berlin basement and the self-appointed | + | “I wanna look like I’m dead but people still wanna f**k me,” drawls Marilyn Manson in a voice deeper and darker than a freshly dug grave. We’re in a dim Berlin basement and the self-appointed God of F**k is telling NME how he wants to be lit for our video shoot. He’s sipping neat vodka and looking impressively sharp in a sleek tartan suit and black-out aviator-style sunglasses, with heavy silver rings lining his pale tattooed hands. As charming as he is crude, he’s a vintage Hollywood star by way of a Grimms’ Fairy Tales villain, playfully kissing the back of your hand one minute but threatening to hunt you down the next. |
| − | It’s been 23 years since Manson and his band released their caustic industrial-metal debut | + | It’s been 23 years since Manson and his band released their caustic industrial-metal debut ‘Portrait Of An American Family’, while the record that made him a star, pop pariah and the most famous Satanist in the world – ‘Antichrist Superstar’ – came out in 1996. Yet the man born Brian Warner is now a more powerful cultural force than ever before, just as likely to pop up on your television – over the past few years he’s had roles in Sons Of Anarchy, Salem and Californication – as your headphones. |
| − | The younger generation of zeitgeisty musicians all seem to be tripping over themselves to get a bit of Manson action, too. Justin Bieber has passed off old Marilyn Manson shirt designs as his own merchandise, Skepta proudly hung out with him at the British Fashion Awards and rapper Lil Uzi Vert was recently spotted wearing a £160,000 chain featuring a huge, blinged out rendering of Manson’s face. In 2017 Marilyn Manson is well and truly a modern icon – but what of his music? On the eve of his 10th album, | + | The younger generation of zeitgeisty musicians all seem to be tripping over themselves to get a bit of Manson action, too. Justin Bieber has passed off old Marilyn Manson shirt designs as his own merchandise, Skepta proudly hung out with him at the British Fashion Awards and rapper Lil Uzi Vert was recently spotted wearing a £160,000 chain featuring a huge, blinged out rendering of Manson’s face. In 2017 Marilyn Manson is well and truly a modern icon – but what of his music? On the eve of his 10th album, ‘Heaven Upside Down’, Marilyn Manson is out to prove that this matters just as much as the myth and madness that surrounds him. |
“Have you got to hear the album?” | “Have you got to hear the album?” | ||
| − | '''I have – | + | '''I have – ‘Kill4Me’ is my favourite song on it.''' |
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“Is it the most sarcastic pop song ever?” | “Is it the most sarcastic pop song ever?” | ||
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'''Is that what you want it to be?''' | '''Is that what you want it to be?''' | ||
| − | “No, I didn’t intend it to be a pop song. | + | “No, I didn’t intend it to be a pop song. Tyler Bates, who is my music partner, is also a sick, f**king dark, twisted f**ker. He scores films [Guardians Of The Galaxy, John Wick, Dawn Of The Dead] and we were trying to find the point in the record where there was going to be a story – that was the point when the story began. It’s very romantic – I wrote the lyrics almost as a poem. I just simply said, ‘Would you kill for me?’ It was almost trying to make fun of the fact that I hate songs where people are whining and saying ‘I’d die for you’. I don’t like it when people ask questions in songs because they sound like pussies.” |
'''Do you often write romantic songs?''' | '''Do you often write romantic songs?''' | ||
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'''Who did you do it with?''' | '''Who did you do it with?''' | ||
| − | “I can’t say, I can’t say… | + | “I can’t say, I can’t say… [Nine Inch Nails frontman] Trent Reznor. Me and Trent are good friends now, again. I really loved his appearance on Twin Peaks. It was awesome. I’m glad to be friends with him again because I wouldn’t really be here if it weren’t for him and I give him credit for that. I mean, I would be here, but not in the same way. He was smart enough to see potential in me and pointed that out and helped me realise it.” |
''You turn 50 in just over a year – what’s the party going to be like?''' | ''You turn 50 in just over a year – what’s the party going to be like?''' | ||
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“I hate birthdays. I’m not good at parties, I’m terrible at parties. I don’t even know the difference between a party and a problem.” | “I hate birthdays. I’m not good at parties, I’m terrible at parties. I don’t even know the difference between a party and a problem.” | ||
| − | ''' | + | '''Your father passed away recently – what made you want to continue with your current tour? Is that what he would have wanted?''' |
“Yeah, absolutely. He wanted that. I went to Ohio, I saw my dad and I got to say goodbye to him. I didn’t know he was going to die that quickly. But his sister was there and his sister tried to hold hands with him, and – my father would like this story to be told – he did not hold hands with her because he died with his hand on his dick, like a straight pimp.” | “Yeah, absolutely. He wanted that. I went to Ohio, I saw my dad and I got to say goodbye to him. I didn’t know he was going to die that quickly. But his sister was there and his sister tried to hold hands with him, and – my father would like this story to be told – he did not hold hands with her because he died with his hand on his dick, like a straight pimp.” | ||
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'''Do you let personal loss and pain into your records?''' | '''Do you let personal loss and pain into your records?''' | ||
| − | “I don’t think so. When I look back at my favourite records such as | + | “I don’t think so. When I look back at my favourite records such as [David Bowie’s] ‘Ziggy Stardust’ or ‘Diamond Dogs’, I don’t really think about what Bowie was going through at the time, I just listen to it and I put myself into the emotion of it. I think it’s very important now more than ever to separate this idea of celebrity, which is the most insulting word that anyone could call me, because I’m not a celebrity, I’m a rock star. I’m a musician, an artist, whatever – I’m not actually technically a very good musician. But I’m not a celebrity; anyone could be a celebrity. So if anyone hears something, I want them to hear what they want to hear – I don’t want to tell them what to hear.” |
'''Who was the first counter-cultural figure you became obsessed with?''' | '''Who was the first counter-cultural figure you became obsessed with?''' | ||
