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| − | Good to see you're still around [[User:Harlequin|Harlequin - MansonWiki Admin]] 19:55, 10 August 2012 (CEST)
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| − | :Hi, thanks :-D ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 01:33, 11 August 2012 (CEST))
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| − | Hey,
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| − | I just saw your contributions, and felt it earned a bit more than an automated welcome message :) Thanks for the contributions, it's really appreciated! Don't forget to check out the [http://www.mansonwiki.com/forums/ forums] also. By the way, do you happen to be dutch? [[User:Litso|Litso]] 22:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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| − | :Hi, Litso! :) Thank you for regards. :) I'm very happy to help you and this wiki on any topics related to Manson (sure, if I can; especially topics related to Manson's live performances). :) Also I'm sorry for my bad English. [[User:Vixen Windstorm|Vixen Windstorm]] always corrects me and makes my «hints» clearer. ))))) By the way, thank you very much, Vixen! ;) ''<...By the way, do you happen to be dutch?...>'' No, I'm Ukrainian. :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 22:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC))
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| − | ::Yeah, I'm a perfectionist like that ;P [[User:Vixen Windstorm|Alden Weston]] 00:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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| − | Just another question.. where do you get all this setlist information? :) [[User:Litso|Litso]] 23:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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| − | :I knew that someone will ask this. ))) I downloaded a lot of live bootlegs from http://www.seven1963.org/ (and some older Seven's sites; unfortunately the site does not share any lives now :( ). This site became my main source of lives and information on them. Sometimes the recordings don't represent the setlist correctly, so I can be wrong if I present such recordings. Though sometimes I fix my recordings looking to your Wiki. ))) Also I would like to note that Vixen's and my live performance articles almost (e.g. Vixen sometimes doesn't note Sweet Dreams outros :) ) match to prove the setlists. :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 00:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC))
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| − | ::Nice work. I've been doing the same for a few older dates, but I never really took the time to do all of them. Glad someone finally found time and energy to do so :) -Litso
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| − | :::Thank you very much, Litso. :) I'm always glad to help you. :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 11:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)) | + | |
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| − | Hi, is it you? http://forum.marilynmanson.ru/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7453 [[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 17:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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| − | :Yes, it's my profile. :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 18:26, 3 December 2009 (UTC))
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| − | ==Family Values==
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| − | I saw you created the page about [[Family Values]] bootleg, but I think the tracklist you wrote is fake, because:
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| − | # Smells Like Children was released in 1995 and you wrote that the bootleg was released in 1994 and that's impossible =)
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| − | # I found the back cover [[Image:1996-FamilyValuesBack.jpg|100px]] and as you can see, the tracklist isn't the same.
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| − | So I think we should fix the tracklist and the year ;) [[User:I4ig0|I4ig0]] 21:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
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| − | :Hm, I guess I'm wrong too, but I'm not sure whether the tracklist is fake in fact though you've provided the scan. Is it possible that the tracklist is correct but I've just misdated the release (also take a look at the date at the scan - it's 1996 O_o)? I consider, ''we could make alternative sections and leave the article unedited until the tracklist and the date become known''. Also I just want to say that two different bootlegs exist but just under the same title. Who knows. )) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 21:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC))
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| − | ::Well, [http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Marilyn_Manson-nom_album-Family_Values-l-fr.html Spirit of Metal] provides the setlist, that you put ,but go to http://manson.boots.free.fr/Main.htm -> Manson Audio -> 1989 - 1996 -> Victoria 06-06-96, the front cover is exactly the same but the tracklist is different... So much confusion =)) [[User:I4ig0|I4ig0]] 22:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
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| − | :::Oh, I'm serious. Let's indicate both variants at the same page, and make the readers confused until we'll know the truth? :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 22:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC))
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| − | ==Note By [g]S regarding The Nacht & Babalon==
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| − | In Case anyone was unaware, Nick Kushner and the Nachtkabarett have taken over ownership of MansonWiki. Nick has appointed myself, [god]speed and <me> as administrators of Mansonwiki. We are going to be linking the Nacht and Babalon for further research. THEOL tour threads ALL contain Youtube as well as photos.
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| − | Thank You
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| − | :Ok, thank you for clarification. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 15:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
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| − | :: No problem Nice to meet you, I am Aaron and <me>'s name is Jen.
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| − | :::I would like to introduce my real name too, but I'm afraid I don't know the correct English spelling. :D Nice to meet you too. :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 16:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
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| − | == New Leadership ETC ==
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| − | hey Scarshock
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| − | i have only been a member for a few months and just a few days a member of Babalon
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| − | and i have come to the conclusion you are high up in this business so i was wondering if you could inform me about "the future of Mansonwiki" which i have only just heard about?
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| − | all i know is Listo wants to leave and leave others incharge... so can you Elaborate on this whole topic , for me please
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| − | --[[User:SPECTRE-01|SPECTRE-01]] 17:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
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| − | :Hello, SPECTRE-01. Sure, I would like to help you on this if I could. What I mean: I'm not in MansonWiki administrative business at all, so I even don't know the news of the wiki until someone clarifies them to me. Moreover. I'm just a one of numerous MansonWiki editors indeed, and I just try to keep it shapely and holistic (in my vision, sure, though we always can decide disputable issues). As you could see, I didn't know anything about Litso's decision, but I remember, a long time ago he said he just tired and he has his own business. Vixen Windstorm said the same. It's sad because these guys created this resource and set up it very high and highly informative at least for me. Second, it's somewhat strange of to hear that MansonWiki is experiencing somehow hard times as far as I can see. O_o Though, you know... I can't understand why do we need any new leaders if we've got a lot of good editors that keep this place clean (M1shael, Yawaraey, I4igo, Lagozzino and other great guys). It seems to be enough. Maybe, I've missed some important things you wanted to say because of my not so good English, so sorry. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 19:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
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| − | ok thanks , i get most of it now --[[User:SPECTRE-01|SPECTRE-01]] 22:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
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| − | ==Capitalization of Titles==
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| − | [http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipmar98.htm Capitalization in titles]
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| − | [[User:Godspeed|[god]speed]] 08:36, 2 May 2010
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| − | :Emmm... If you leave a link, so leave a link or/and just a short quote referred by the link please. Especially, always specify ''the reason'' of the link providing (it's just a good tradition): fortunately I remember my last edits, and I track all wiki recent changes via my RSS-aggregator, so if you rename a page according to English capitalization rules (or any other reasons), I can always track it without unformatted/unshaped notifications you did not provide to anyone but me here. You'd better provide the link to everyone who uses "Aaaa Aaaa Aaaa"-styled titles anyway. However I do not need my page to be littered in such way because it was not politely from you. Thank you for understanding. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 09:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC))
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| − | == Повышение ==
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| − | Поздравляю с повышением! (: --[[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 12:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Спасибо. )) Но я пока только рассматриваю предложение команды MansonWiki. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 18:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC))
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| − | :: Что за предложение?) --[[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 18:34, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: В основном, технически совершенствовать сайт. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] 18:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC))
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| − | :::: Очень надеюсь, что ты присоеденишься к ммвики. --[[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 18:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Hi==
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| − | hey i've read your message about the bold thing...i don't know, i can change this, but now i've modified so many pages with this bold style for the duties so there's a lot of work to do.
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| − | and about the template, can you help me with that? i'm not that expert.
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| − | ([[User:MAFF'L|MAFF'L]] ([[User talk:MAFF'L|talk]]) 23:12, 5 December 2013 (CET))
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| − | : hi. don't worry, that was a lot of work. the template should not be that hard or advanced, i hope (you can refer to any tour/song/etc template to learn more). the only issue with template i see is that i don't know yet how to compose multiple duties per a person in an efficient and good way so no duty could be repeated. so the lineup template is just an idea at the moment. i have to think of it as well. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 23:42, 5 December 2013 (CET))
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| − | :: ok, ok...should i continue the work with the tours or should i stop to let you think about these things? ([[User:MAFF'L|MAFF'L]] ([[User talk:MAFF'L|talk]]) 16:00, 6 December 2013 (CET))
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| − | ::: if it's not tedious for you, please go ahead :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 15:58, 6 December 2013 (CET))
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| − | :::: don't worry, for me it's a pleasure, i love to make better this wiki ;) ([[User:MAFF'L|MAFF'L]] ([[User talk:MAFF'L|talk]]) 16:00, 6 December 2013 (CET))
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| − | ==MAFF'L Talk==
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| − | Hello, Scarshock. I went to MAFF'L's page to discuss the bolding of the Lineup sections on the tour pages and noticed you had also mentioned it to him. We decided that it looks better how it was done in the beginning with the format being Person/function unbolded and he has agreed to help changing these. This makes more sense, especially since the section title is 'Lineup' which refers to who performed in the show and then their function would be secondary info. We also discussed why the 2003 Berlin acoustic show and the 1996 Irving Plaza show were not considered orphaned performances. I agree they should be, but wanted to invite your opinion since you edited some of those shows, See detail on [[User:MAFF%27L|his page]], thanks! [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer - Senior Editor]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 17:14, 11 March 2014 (CET)
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| − | :hi, Sumer. thanks for the reminder and letting me know. i totally agree to unbold the lineups, however i'm sorry for approving MAFF'L to go ahead with bold a few months ago -- that's my bad, so now he's got a lot to revert. additionally, i also noticed that the lineups differ from tour to tour: "person/function" in the oldest shows, and "function/person" in the latest shows. frankly speaking, i don't even remember which style was set up on MW when i joined MW ages ago, but i prefer "person/function" style. concerning the orphaned shows: it's hard to say. i actually never considered joining such articles to the tour pages leaving them as they are, because they all were decided to be in such state by more experienced teammates (Litso, Vixen, and other guys). ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 17:46, 11 March 2014 (CET))
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| − | :: I prefer that format, too. I've been working in the early tours section and so far that's the way they are so was surprised to see it being done different. I worked on adding many pages in the later tours where the change wasn't noticed. I am very interested in making like pages as uniform as possible.
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| − | ::I agree, they seem to be stand alone pages/ shows and I might add them to the orphaned performance section especially since the Berlin show was only Manson and the two women accompanying him on piano. The Irving Plaza show, Manson himself, has said it was a favor and not the beginning of the tour. Am busy seeing what I can do about wanted pages at the moment, however. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer - Senior Editor]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 22:57, 11 March 2014 (CET)
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| − | ::: using a wiki engine to keep pages as uniform as possible is not that trivial, unfortunately. some of the "sharp edges" could be smoothed using wiki templates, but if so, then each article could be just a set of hard-to-read (in wiki markup sense) templates probably giving some performance penalty (to "unroll" a template into a page representation - i don't know how mediawiki behaves, though). the templates themselves could be complicated too. when we had a conversation with MAFF'L that time, i mentioned templates as a way of lineups content/representation uniforming "once and forever", but i haven't created/found a good lineup template yet (optional functions, multiple functions per person, re-ordering, lineup guests, etc), so keeping an eye on lineups, setlists, trivia is necessary, unfortunately. ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 08:10, 12 March 2014 (CET))
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| − | [[Support_for_Danzig%27s_Danzig_4p_Tour]] Column changed to match new ones done. All of the pages were already with the ''yyyy/mo/day'' format. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer - Senior Editor]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 23:18, 3 April 2014 (CEST)
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| − | : thank you very much, Sumer :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 10:17, 4 April 2014 (CEST))
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| − | Made a sample Tour Page with notes in the [[The_Marilyn_Manson_Wiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. Let me know what you think. I was told it is proper to bold the date as say it was an article about a song, the name of the song would be bolded, (at least in the first sentence), so I am concurring on that one. However it's agreed no About section header and the Lineup should be Person - Instrument, vocals unbolded. I did not address the Category structure, though. The Era - Portrait of an American Family vs Portrait of an American Family era. My next step I might make a sample page and add a link to it in the Help or cheat sheet area. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer - Senior Editor]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 09:43, 5 April 2014 (CEST)
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| − | : hi, Sumer. thanks. if you don't mind, i'll prepare the MediaWiki template for the about section, when i get some more free time, so we could change the appearance if necessary as many times as we might want. concerning the categories, i guess, "Portrait of an American Family era" is better than "Era - ..." ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 21:42, 5 April 2014 (CEST))
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| − | ::Thanks, I saw the new templates. I want to confirm, the ''yyy/mp/day'' changes on the main tour pages that we are editing are to appear in that format in the tables. In other words, the tables should have the date showing like in this one: [[Self_Destruct]] not like how it's showing now in this one: [[Further_Down_the_Spiral]].
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| − | ::It was said to change one category like that would mean changing all of them and it was felt if someone was looking for an era they would look under the main title first. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 19:12, 9 April 2014 (CEST)
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| − | FYI [[Smells_Like_Children_%28tour%29]] updated the table to the new style. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 07:33, 11 April 2014 (CEST)
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| − | : according to the edit logs you've added 19,475) characters, so it was a great change, thanks! :) ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 19:41, 12 April 2014 (CEST))
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| − | :: :) Progress! Can you add country to the About template and maybe post it under template category so it can be found by others? Thanks! [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 04:49, 13 April 2014 (CEST)
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| − | ::: Actually, I tried to add a reference at the end of that template and no matter what I did, the reference number would only appear on the next line, which didn't look quite right. [[User:Sumer Schmetterling|Sumer ]] ([[User talk:Sumer Schmetterling|talk]]) 06:01, 13 April 2014 (CEST)
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| − | :: i'm not sure that i've understood your request correctly, but [[Template:AboutPerformance]] already contains the <code>country</code> parameter, so you can specify a country as well (by its full name, not by its code like codes we use in <nowiki>[[Template:Country]]</nowiki>). or do i understand you totally wrong?... ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]] ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 09:34, 13 April 2014 (CEST))
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| − | ::: note that the about-performance template now supports [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains country top-level internet domain codes] for the <code>country</code> parameter (lower case) as well as the <code>state</code> ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_abbreviations#Postal_codes postal codes], upper case). please see [http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sample_Pages:Tour_dates&curid=23247&diff=82795&oldid=82745 my changes] to the sample page ([[User:Scarshock|scarshock]]
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| − | Sorry, i made a mistake when i was editing the [[2014/08/06 Utrecht, Netherlands]] page, i only wanted to add the [[Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)]] video and i forgot to reinsert the [[Mister Superstar]] one.<br>[[User:MAFF'L]] ([[User talk:MAFF'L|talk]]) 14:31, 8 August 2014 (CEST)
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| − | :no problem man, thanks ([[User talk:Scarshock|talk]]) 11:24, 13 April 2014 (CEST))
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