Revision as of 21:08, 25 May 2014

Lineup in articles and tourboxes

We have performers listed in the info box and then again under Lineup on individual tour pages. Is this overkill? The info boxes are already big now as it is. Thoughts? scarshock (talk), Harlequin (talk), MAFF'L (talk) Sumer (talk) 07:44, 10 May 2014 (CEST)

this was established a long-long time ago i'd like to keep it as it is. scarshock (talk) 13:06, 11 May 2014 (CEST)

And location. That's in two different places, too. I think this sample page should be redone to show a good blank templated page that can be copied over to a new page and just fill in the blanks. Sumer (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2014 (CEST)

An info box is a quick glance at facts contained within an article. It's usually expected: What should an infobox contain? Harlequin (talk)

Specifying both stage and real names

just curious: what's the point of specifying both stage and real names for cases like [[Scott Putesky|Daisy Berkowitz]] if [[Daisy Berkowitz]] still refers Scott Putesky saying that the page is redirected? (scarshock (talk) 08:23, 13 May 2014 (CEST))

I'm not sure of what usage as an example of what you mean, but band members are often referred to by their stage name with in articles. Harlequin (talk) 17:29, 16 May 2014 (CEST)

I believe (scarshock (talk) is referring to the use of [[Scott Putesky|Daisy Berkowitz]] and [[Twiggy|Twiggy Ramirez]]. I do it avoid the redirect page but also because for instance it should say Twiggy Ramirez up until he left the band and say just Twiggy after the THEOL era. Twiggy is the pages name. (Technically, it should say Jeordie White in between that time.) And I wanted to stress that to new users, otherwise we're going to have a lot of plain "Twiggy" links in the SK era. That way it takes one directly to the member page without the 'this is from a redirected page' line on it. Scarshock we are working on another way of communicating.Sumer (talk) 17:43, 16 May 2014 (CEST)

but both [[Daisy Berkowitz]] and [[Twiggy Ramirez]] lead to Scott Putesky and Twiggy pages respectively. and we can still use [[Twiggy Ramirez]] up to 2001 and simple [[Twiggy]] later. it will be displayed as Twiggy Ramirez and Twiggy for those eras separately. i still have a strong feeling that i miss your point (scarshock (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2014 (CEST))

Twiggy performing as a member of Marilyn Manson, would always be referred to by stage name. Harlequin (talk)

i think that i get your point, but i'm still confused. what could be wrong with the following code:

a performance in 2001

{{Setlist
| [[Marilyn Manson]] = vocals
| [[John 5]] = guitars
| [[Twiggy Ramirez]] = bass
...

a performance in 2012

{{Setlist
| [[Marilyn Manson]] = vocals
| [[Twiggy]] = guitars
...

? %) (scarshock (talk) 18:27, 16 May 2014 (CEST))

I don't see anything wrong with either, though personally I prefer the use of his full name for consistency, after all, it's the same person who is being referred to. I don't believe there is a reason for dropping Ramirez due to departure and return to the band. I think it's just more commonly accepted in general discussion to refer to him as Twiggy rather than any official change of stage name.Harlequin (talk)

A little question

No space between end of Info Box template and About template.
but why? if there's a new line character, then visually the templates are separated and cleaner (scarshock (talk) 09:05, 16 May 2014 (CEST))

I agree, there should be a space between Harlequin (talk)

Either way renders the same visual result.

I think I said that because I saw it being done that way before. You have to remember, the info box actually shows up to the right of the article. The About line shows up under the page title. Sumer (talk) 17:38, 16 May 2014 (CEST)

I know :P, but when editing it's easier to read and editing if they're separated. Harlequin (talk)

The Last time updated template is not working

(scarshock (talk) The last time this page was updated template is not working, Scarshock. Sumer (talk) 23:08, 25 May 2014 (CEST)