Talk:Marilyn Manson tours
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Marilyn Manson tours article.
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Tours and Tour Legs Categories
At the moment there is only one major [[Category:Tour Dates]] category for live performance articles. There are few minor valuable categories too, but is it reasonable to make more major categories like ' and '? (scarshock 16:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
- Excellent! I can do it with these categories (for THEoL tour):
- [[Category:Tour Dates]] [[Category:The High End of Low Tour]] [[Category:The High End of Low European Festival Tour]]
- This is sample for 2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic. --M1shael 14:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Great! Not bad if you have some free time. I think this idea can please everyone making the tours, tour legs and tour dates more consistent. I've just checked a random NIN wiki page regarding to the NIN tour dates, and I saw NIN wiki editors used the same approach categorizing the tour dates. Would you do it, M1shael? Then we could evaluate a further attempt of the consistent development for the MansonWiki. (scarshock 15:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
My last editing
This month we've got a few new editors here. But it seems somewhat strange that they do not take into consideration the long-term unwritten law article editing rules. Especially I can't see the reason of creating the articles for performances that have not taken place yet, though it breaks the edit chronology. ))) I'm not sure I have a lot of strength to remain a MansonWiki editor and keep an eye on wikification for a lot of newer and newer edits. So I've decided that this edit would become the last edit. Thank you collaboration, Litso, Vixen Windstorm, Lagozzino, Damc-321, M1shael, I4igo and Yawaraey. I love you. P.S. I can't get why I have edited just the page (probably because of the tour performances that have not taken place yet). :D Sorry. ))) (scarshock 09:07, 19 December 2009 (UTC))
New Table
Tour | Duration | Location |
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Guns, God and Government Tour | ||
Guns, God and Government North American Tour | 2000/10/27 – 2001/01/13 | North America |
Guns, God and Government Spring European Tour | 2001/01/21 – 2001/02/24 | Europe |
Guns, God and Government Spring Japan Tour | 2001/03/11 – 2001/03/20 | Japan |
Grotesk Burlesk | ||
Grotesk Burlesk Spring European Tour | 2003/04/11 – 2003/06/21 | Europe |
What do you think about new table for tours section? I have seen this here. --M1shael 09:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- That's Pretty Sexy... I Rike It A Lot M1shael.... :) godspeed 14:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
If you really like it, can I change the current version of the table on new version? --M1shael 15:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I like it, because it gives access to the tour leg pages a lot faster than the old way, but I'm a bit afraid it'll be so long that it's going to miss it's point.. Especially the more recent tours have seen so many tour legs it will be a very long list. Also you wont be able to see from and to what dates the entire tour spanned.. Will it still be usable enough? Maybe we could find a way to have the current list include expand-buttons that reveal the legs when clicked.. Also the Unabridged Dates part on ninwiki is a bit overkill. You dont need a section/header for every single unabridged tour date. Litso 21:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
New Table No. 15
Tour Leg | Duration | Location |
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Guns, God and Government Tour | ||
Guns, God and Government North American Tour | 2000/10/27 – 2001/01/13 | North America |
Guns, God and Government Spring European Tour | 2001/01/21 – 2001/02/24 | Europe |
Guns, God and Government Spring Japan Tour | 2001/03/11 – 2001/03/20 | Japan |
Guns, God and Government Ozzfest 2001 Tour | 2001/06/08 – 2001/08/12 | North America |
Guns, God and Government Autumn Japan Tour | 2001/08/18 – 2001/08/19 | Japan |
Guns, God and Government Autumn European Tour | 2001/08/22 – 2001/09/02 | Europe |
Grotesk Burlesk Tour | ||
Grotesk Burlesk Spring European Tour | 2003/04/11 – 2003/06/21 | Europe |
Grotesk Burlesk Ozzfest 2003 Tour | 2003/06/28 – 2003/08/28 | North America |
Grotesk Burlesk Australian Tour | 2003/09/13 – 2003/09/20 | Australia |
Grotesk Burlesk Asian Tour | 2003/09/24 – 2003/10/04 | Japan, South Korea |
Litso, what do you think about new version? :) --M1shael 15:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, you solved one thing. Nice job. I still wonder what it'll look like if we add all legs. Visually it's a lot more compelling, that's a fact, but it's just going to be such an enormous list. Then again, maybe that's not so bad Litso 16:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Full Version
I've done full version of this shit. Yeah, it's looks so big, but i think that this version really better than the current version. :D --M1shael 09:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. Nice work! Let's go :)Litso 11:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Summary tracklisting
What do you think about summary tracklisting of played songs for each tour? For example I compile a list for Rape of the World tour:
- Litso, what do you think? --M1shael 18:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- "Trio No. 2 in E-Flat Major for Piano, Violin, and Violoncello" (Intro)
- "Cruci-Fiction in Space"
- "Disposable Teens"
- "You and Me and the Devil Makes 3"
- "Irresponsible Hate Anthem"
- "Great Big White World"
- "Are You the Rabbit?"
- "mOBSCENE"
- "Mechanical Animals"
- "If I Was Your Vampire"
- "Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)"
- "The Love Song"
- "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" / "Lunchbox" (Medley)
- "Rock 'n' Roll Nigger"
- "Tourniquet"
- "Little Horn"
- "The Fight Song"
- "Putting Holes In Happiness"
- "Just A Car Crash Away"
- "Tainted Love"
- "Happiness Is a Warm Gun"
- "The Dope Show"
- "Rock Is Dead"
- "Coma White" / "Coma Black (a) Eden Eye"
- "Track 99"
- "The Reflecting God"
- "The Beautiful People" (With "Baby You're a Rich Man" intro)
- "Antichrist Superstar"
- "1996"
- "The Nobodies"
- "This Is Halloween"
- "EAT ME, DRINK ME"
- "Trio No. 2 in E-Flat Major for Piano, Violin, and Violoncello" (Outro)
* By the way, I like this idea m1shael [god]speed 22:44, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
YouTube Idea
I was wondering and perhaps this should be a vote rather than a suggestion, but what if we were to compile a youtube video for each tour date, only really good footage and just a single song or so, we don't want to flood the tour articles however, I think that most people that check on previous tour dates more than likely went to the show and are looking to remember it, (checking the setlist etc.) and a single video when clicked would direct them to more related videos from the show on youtube.
I just figure that it might give us something to do, while there isn't anything major happening at the moment.
Just an idea. [god]speed 22:41, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm game and I have quite a few good HD videos that I could put up as well. NickSixx 00:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm up for it :) Dave too lazy to login
- I thought it would be something you guys might like, though I'd like to hear what some of the other users thinks before we decide to start.
- I'm up for it :) Dave too lazy to login
If we do decide to incorporate youtube video(s) into the tour section, I'd really like to keep them down to a minimum and high quality. We definitely don't want to clutter up the tour dates with tons of videos, but I do think that it is important and would add more to each of those articles than simply the setlist. We'll see what everyone else thinks first. [god]speed 09:14, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
- obviously the videos which are going to be best quality are the ones from Dead to the world and GGG tour videos, but there are alot more we can get, i think and i was wondering if we we're going to put videos in from orphaned performances, liek when Mansons and NIN did starfuckers and beautifull people and when manson was on lettterman doing personal jesus? Dave too lazy again
- A lot of my THEOL tour videos are in HD. NickSixx 15:03, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
- I like this idea, so it's a yes from me. However I think we should limit to one, maybe two quality videos for each performance. I also suggest starting with most recent performances so that there is some order to this. When I say quality, I mean QUALITY though. ‡-me-‡ 08:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiwkkVQJ2jE , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMoYbpRO_Zs and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_jK8Gf8BQ are examples of my best videos. NickSixx 20:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
New border for tour legs
Date | City | Country |
Venue | |
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June 3, 2009 | File:Flag of the Czech Republic.jpg |
Brno | Czech Republic | Velodrom |
June 5, 2009 | File:Flag-Germany.jpg | Nürburgring | Germany | Rock Am Ring |
June 6, 2009 | File:Flag-Germany.jpg | Nürnberg | Germany | Rock Im Park |
June 8, 2009 | File:Flag-Austria.jpg | Innsbruck | Austria | Olympiahalle |
Date/Location | Venue |
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2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic | Velodrom |
2009/06/05 Nürburgring, Germany | Rock Am Ring |
2009/06/06 Nürnberg, Germany | Rock Im Park |
2009/06/08 Innsbruck, Austria | Olympiahalle |
What do you think about this? --M1shael 14:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
DUDE!!, thats awsome, especialy with the flags, top job man, :) Dave, too lazy to login again