Talk:Marilyn Manson lyrics and tablature
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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Marilyn Manson lyrics and tablature article.
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TABLATURE NOTICE
Please use discretion when adding guitar or bass tablature, Users adding tabs should know how to play the given instrument so that they are able to test out the tablature before adding to the Archive. Simply put, if you do not know what note corresponds to the open string, or common tunings then you probably shouldn't post tablature.
Manson Wiki Administration
Current poor markup
Check that section indexes are pinned to the right-side, at least in Google Chrome. I can't understand why you use complicated HTML/CSS markup float-property-based technique without complete understanding of its purpose. Remove redundant <br> tags, use simple HTML/Wiki tables to show guitar/bass/etc tabs in tabular manner, etc. I think that the following table manner is much better (reducing ammount of exact title occurances, simplifying the markup, etc):
Sample
Sample Source
{| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
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| rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
| [[Cake and Sodomy]]
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
| [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
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| style="width: 120px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
| style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
| [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
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| [[Misery Machine]]
| [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
| [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
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And the last note: the <br> tag is self-closed so the correct syntax is <br/>. (scarshock 08:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC))
- Aesthetically, I prefer it as is. I prefer to see a song title twice rather than the word bass or guitar repeatedly listed. Though I appreciate that I'm not the only visitor to this site, so would appreciate the input of others. If your version is more accepted over the existing, we'll go with it :) ‡-me-‡ 08:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
My thoughts are that when you post all the albums together as they currently are you are going to have a massive row of guitar bass I don't mind the idea of a table, however I think it would be best with the song listed twice in one column for bass and one for guitar as it is now. I don't see the problem in Chrome which is the only browser I use, Could you take a screen shot? The problem i see with listing the words guitar & bass 15 times in a row is that I think a lot of people would wind up either clicking the wrong song or having to trace their finger across the screen to ensure they were picking the correct tab.
Here's an example of when you post the eight albums together, as you can see the words bass and guitar become overwhelming and thus harder to navigate imo
- Here is the screenshot. The green-marked header is perfect, but the red-marked header is broken probably because of using the "float" CSS property. This was about markup issues (I didn't test it in Firefox, Opera, etc). And now about usability. The following wiki-based sample (using alternate rows) is similar to the structure used on 911Tabs, and (but I'm not sure) similar to the tablature sections structure used at MansonUSA.
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- Currently I don't know how to change the width of each column. (scarshock 13:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC))
- Neither of us have the problem in chrome. But in regards to the table, I think we are going to have to wait until after we get the new design up because the colours in the table are going to have to match the colour scheme that we are using. i know people are wondering when/ if ever the new design is coming, however rest assured it won't be long at all. ;) [god]speed 14:02, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- The blue colour scheme of the table has been chosen randomly just to show the alternate rows for tablature table. Sure, it must be changed when the wiki gets redesigned. So what about usability for multiple "guitar", "bass", "keyboard" and "drums" hyperlinks in the alternate rows? (scarshock 14:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC))
- I've checked in Chrome and IE and still don't see what you're seeing? o_O However, I agree with Gs it's probably best to wait for the redesign as blue just isn't going to work :p ‡-me-‡ 14:05, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps you use 16:9 displays and all page content completely fits the window... I don't know... (scarshock 14:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC))
- Neither of us have the problem in chrome. But in regards to the table, I think we are going to have to wait until after we get the new design up because the colours in the table are going to have to match the colour scheme that we are using. i know people are wondering when/ if ever the new design is coming, however rest assured it won't be long at all. ;) [god]speed 14:02, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Spooky Kids
There are also articles on the tabalture for spooky kid songs, and I would add them myself but I'm inexperienced and don't want to mess up the article.
