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:Aesthetically, I prefer it as is. I prefer to see a song title twice rather than the word bass or guitar repeatedly listed.  Though I appreciate that I'm not the only visitor to this site, so would appreciate the input of others. If your version is more accepted over the existing, we'll go with it :) [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡]] 08:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 
:Aesthetically, I prefer it as is. I prefer to see a song title twice rather than the word bass or guitar repeatedly listed.  Though I appreciate that I'm not the only visitor to this site, so would appreciate the input of others. If your version is more accepted over the existing, we'll go with it :) [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡]] 08:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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My thoughts are that when you post all the albums together as they currently are you are going to have a massive row of guitar bass
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I do like the idea of a table. I don't see the problem in Chrome which is the only browser I use, Could you take a screen shot?
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The problem i see with listing the words guitar & bass 15 times in a row is that I think a lot of people would wind up either clicking the wrong song or having to trace their finger across the screen to ensure they were picking the correct tab.
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Here's an example of when you post the eight albums together, as you can see the words bass and guitar become overwhelming and thus harder to navigate imo
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{| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
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|-
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| rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
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| [[Cake and Sodomy]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
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|-
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| style="width: 320px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
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| style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Organ Grinder]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Organ Grinder|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Organ Grinder|bass]]
 +
|-
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| [[Cyclops]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Cyclops|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Cyclops|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Dope Hat]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Dope Hat|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Dope Hat|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Get Your Gunn]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Get Your Gunn|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Get Your Gunn|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Wrapped in Plastic]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Dogma]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Dogma|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Dogma|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Sweet Tooth]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Sweet Tooth|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: Sweet Tooth|bass]]
 +
|-
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| [[Snake Eyes and Sissies]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|bass]]
 +
|-
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| [[My Monkey]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: My Monkey|guitar]]
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| [[Bass Tablature: My Monkey|bass]]
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|-
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| [[Misery Machine]]
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| [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
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|}
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{| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
 +
|-
 +
| rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
 +
| [[Cake and Sodomy]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| style="width: 320px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
 +
| style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Organ Grinder]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Organ Grinder|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Organ Grinder|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Cyclops]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cyclops|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cyclops|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dope Hat]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dope Hat|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dope Hat|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Get Your Gunn]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Get Your Gunn|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Get Your Gunn|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Wrapped in Plastic]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dogma]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dogma|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dogma|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Sweet Tooth]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Sweet Tooth|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Sweet Tooth|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Snake Eyes and Sissies]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[My Monkey]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: My Monkey|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: My Monkey|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Misery Machine]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
 +
|}
 +
{| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
 +
|-
 +
| rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
 +
| [[Cake and Sodomy]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| style="width: 320px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
 +
| style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Organ Grinder]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Organ Grinder|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Organ Grinder|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Cyclops]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cyclops|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cyclops|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dope Hat]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dope Hat|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dope Hat|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Get Your Gunn]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Get Your Gunn|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Get Your Gunn|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Wrapped in Plastic]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dogma]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dogma|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dogma|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Sweet Tooth]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Sweet Tooth|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Sweet Tooth|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Snake Eyes and Sissies]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[My Monkey]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: My Monkey|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: My Monkey|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Misery Machine]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
 +
|}
 +
{| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
 +
|-
 +
| rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
 +
| [[Cake and Sodomy]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| style="width: 320px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
 +
| style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Organ Grinder]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Organ Grinder|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Organ Grinder|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Cyclops]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cyclops|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cyclops|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dope Hat]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dope Hat|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dope Hat|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Get Your Gunn]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Get Your Gunn|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Get Your Gunn|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Wrapped in Plastic]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dogma]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dogma|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dogma|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Sweet Tooth]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Sweet Tooth|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Sweet Tooth|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Snake Eyes and Sissies]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[My Monkey]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: My Monkey|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: My Monkey|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Misery Machine]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
 +
|}
 +
{| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
 +
|-
 +
| rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
 +
| [[Cake and Sodomy]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| style="width: 320px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
 +
| style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Organ Grinder]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Organ Grinder|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Organ Grinder|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Cyclops]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Cyclops|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Cyclops|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dope Hat]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dope Hat|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dope Hat|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Get Your Gunn]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Get Your Gunn|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Get Your Gunn|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Wrapped in Plastic]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Wrapped in Plastic|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Dogma]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Dogma|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Dogma|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Sweet Tooth]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Sweet Tooth|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Sweet Tooth|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Snake Eyes and Sissies]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Snake Eyes and Sissies|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[My Monkey]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: My Monkey|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: My Monkey|bass]]
 +
|-
 +
| [[Misery Machine]]
 +
| [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
 +
| [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
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|}

Revision as of 10:38, 4 May 2010

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Marilyn Manson lyrics and tablature article.
This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject.

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TABLATURE NOTICE

Please use discretion when adding guitar or bass tablature, Users adding tabs should know how to play the given instrument so that they are able to test out the tablature before adding to the Archive. Simply put, if you do not know what note corresponds to the open string, or common tunings then you probably shouldn't post tablature.


Manson Wiki Administration

Current poor markup

Check that section indexes are pinned to the right-side, at least in Google Chrome. I can't understand why you use complicated HTML/CSS markup float-property-based technique without complete understanding of its purpose. Remove redundant <br> tags, use simple HTML/Wiki tables to show guitar/bass/etc tabs in tabular manner, etc. I think that the following table manner is much better (reducing ammount of exact title occurances, simplifying the markup, etc):

Sample

Cake and Sodomy guitar bass
Lunchbox guitar bass
Organ Grinder guitar bass
Cyclops guitar bass
Dope Hat guitar bass
Get Your Gunn guitar bass
Wrapped in Plastic guitar bass
Dogma guitar bass
Sweet Tooth guitar bass
Snake Eyes and Sissies guitar bass
My Monkey guitar bass
Misery Machine guitar bass

Sample Source

   {| border="0" style="width: 100%;"
   |-
   | rowspan="12" valign="top" style="width: 230px;" | [[Image:PortraitOfAnAmericanFamily.png|180px|left|link=Portrait of an American Family (album)|]]
   | [[Cake and Sodomy]]
   | [[Guitar Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|guitar]]
   | [[Bass Tablature: Cake and Sodomy|bass]]
   |-
   | style="width: 120px;" | [[Lunchbox]]
   | style="width: 120px;" | [[Guitar Tablature: Lunchbox|guitar]]
   | [[Bass Tablature: Lunchbox|bass]]
   
   ...
   
   |-
   | [[Misery Machine]]
   | [[Guitar Tablature: Misery Machine|guitar]]
   | [[Bass Tablature: Misery Machine|bass]]
   |}

And the last note: the <br> tag is self-closed so the correct syntax is <br/>. (scarshock 08:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC))

Aesthetically, I prefer it as is. I prefer to see a song title twice rather than the word bass or guitar repeatedly listed. Though I appreciate that I'm not the only visitor to this site, so would appreciate the input of others. If your version is more accepted over the existing, we'll go with it :) ‡-me-‡ 08:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts are that when you post all the albums together as they currently are you are going to have a massive row of guitar bass I do like the idea of a table. I don't see the problem in Chrome which is the only browser I use, Could you take a screen shot? The problem i see with listing the words guitar & bass 15 times in a row is that I think a lot of people would wind up either clicking the wrong song or having to trace their finger across the screen to ensure they were picking the correct tab.


Here's an example of when you post the eight albums together, as you can see the words bass and guitar become overwhelming and thus harder to navigate imo

Cake and Sodomy guitar bass
Lunchbox guitar bass
Organ Grinder guitar bass
Cyclops guitar bass
Dope Hat guitar bass
Get Your Gunn guitar bass
Wrapped in Plastic guitar bass
Dogma guitar bass
Sweet Tooth guitar bass
Snake Eyes and Sissies guitar bass
My Monkey guitar bass
Misery Machine guitar bass
Cake and Sodomy guitar bass
Lunchbox guitar bass
Organ Grinder guitar bass
Cyclops guitar bass
Dope Hat guitar bass
Get Your Gunn guitar bass
Wrapped in Plastic guitar bass
Dogma guitar bass
Sweet Tooth guitar bass
Snake Eyes and Sissies guitar bass
My Monkey guitar bass
Misery Machine guitar bass
Cake and Sodomy guitar bass
Lunchbox guitar bass
Organ Grinder guitar bass
Cyclops guitar bass
Dope Hat guitar bass
Get Your Gunn guitar bass
Wrapped in Plastic guitar bass
Dogma guitar bass
Sweet Tooth guitar bass
Snake Eyes and Sissies guitar bass
My Monkey guitar bass
Misery Machine guitar bass
Cake and Sodomy guitar bass
Lunchbox guitar bass
Organ Grinder guitar bass
Cyclops guitar bass
Dope Hat guitar bass
Get Your Gunn guitar bass
Wrapped in Plastic guitar bass
Dogma guitar bass
Sweet Tooth guitar bass
Snake Eyes and Sissies guitar bass
My Monkey guitar bass
Misery Machine guitar bass
Cake and Sodomy guitar bass
Lunchbox guitar bass
Organ Grinder guitar bass
Cyclops guitar bass
Dope Hat guitar bass
Get Your Gunn guitar bass
Wrapped in Plastic guitar bass
Dogma guitar bass
Sweet Tooth guitar bass
Snake Eyes and Sissies guitar bass
My Monkey guitar bass
Misery Machine guitar bass