Talk:Marilyn Manson discography
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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Marilyn Manson discography article.
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Should the albums released under the Spooky Kids name (such as 'White Trash') be added to the list? I reckon so, but yeah, opinions? Deathwish 04:43, 7 March 2007 (CET)
- No, but a link to the Spooky kids discography should be placed in a See also section. Windstorm 21:26, 14 June 2007 (CEST)
That, and White Trash is a bootleg, it shouldn't be on a discography at all. Litso 00:35, 15 June 2007 (CEST)
Digital Releases
Should the two digital releases (Lost & Found and itunes essentials) be moved to their own category? Cantwont 14:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Vinyl
- Question, I personally would like to have a section, (not sure whether it should be just a section on discography or an article) but from a collector's point of view, i think we should have something that lists all official vinyl releases. I realize that some of the studio albums already include the vinyl, but I think it would be really cool to see all the vinyls in one section as well. [god]speed 00:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Compilations?
Also, I don't see how the download card or the boxset are categorized as compilations? Perhaps we should create a section titled Special Releases or something where we could place the vinyls, boxset, download card, etc. as they are unique and could be categorized together. Picture discs as well :) [god]speed 01:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Because they compile material from different collections. The boxset compiles two otherwise individually released albums and tapes, the Hot Topic download card compiles remixes from a bunch of random artists, and Lost & Found acts as a mini hits release whereas Lest We Forget and iTunes Essentials act as the whole shabang. Alden Weston talk – forum profile 15:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Remixes
What do you think a high-profile remix is? Anything put out on a Manson release is high-profile. Anything artists/bootleggers randomly remixed and put out on obscure compilations/Internet/bootlegs is unauthorized. Alden Weston talk – forum profile 20:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, you've got your terminology all wrong. When something is "High-profile", it implies that it has more importance/it has more public appeal/people are paying more attention to it than other things in its category. For example, "Shrek" would be a high-profile movie, while "Salo" is just a regular profile movie. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are a high profile couple, while your Mom and Dad are just a regular couple. See how this works? It DOES NOT mean: "anything put out on a Manson release". Also, "unauthorized" DOES NOT mean: "Anything artists/bootleggers randomly remixed and put out on obscure compilations/Internet/bootlegs". The method of release has nothing to do with the authenticity of the song itself. Just use your ears; if the remix clearly uses the original song's multitrack files (as is obviously the case with all those remixes you classified as "unauthorized") then either it was authorized by Manson/Interscope or the crafty little devils snuck into Manson's studio and stole his files. Which is more likely? Lastly, what is the point of writing out a full paragraph on a remix when that information can all be condensed into: "Name of Remix" ("Name of Original Song" remixed by "Name of Remixer"). Simple and to the point. This is a list, inside of a larger article of lists, not an elaborate article in itself. There's basic info and anyone who wants to know more than basic info can go read the main article. Writing out all that extra stuff would be like putting "Holy Wood is the 4th studio album by Marilyn Manson released in 2001 and featuring the musical input of Manson, Ramirez, etc." next to the Holy Wood entry; completely unnecessary since anyone who would care to find out the specifics will go to the main article anyways.--Lagozzino 22:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay guys, this editing war is getting a little out of hand, how about those involved hash it out on the forum or here on the discussion page before making anymore edits? If you two truly can't come to some kind of common ground, then put it up for vote amongst the senior editors. ‡-me-‡ 16:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, I made an attempt at hashing it out. I made my case above, listing point by point why this new format he keeps trying to push isn't as good as the old old but I never got a rebuttal. Anyways, I asked Godspeed to discuss among the administrators and I'll just go along with the admins's final verdict, case closed.--Lagozzino 16:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I just think it's him on a power struggle and it's growing tiresome. The discography is large enough as it is, adding more to it over complicates it to the point where i think most users are going to just skip over it if they have to do that much reading. It's purpose should be to list and compile things in a simple matter with direct links to articles for users that want to find more information about the remix/whatever. I think Lagonizzo's is far more to the point and precise rather than cluttering it up with all of the other informations that are in the corresponding article for the said remix. [god]speed 17:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, I made an attempt at hashing it out. I made my case above, listing point by point why this new format he keeps trying to push isn't as good as the old old but I never got a rebuttal. Anyways, I asked Godspeed to discuss among the administrators and I'll just go along with the admins's final verdict, case closed.--Lagozzino 16:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay guys, this editing war is getting a little out of hand, how about those involved hash it out on the forum or here on the discussion page before making anymore edits? If you two truly can't come to some kind of common ground, then put it up for vote amongst the senior editors. ‡-me-‡ 16:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
