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| album            = [[Mechanical Animals]]
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| start_date        = [[1999/03/21 Houston, TX|March 21, 1999]]
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| end_date          = [[1999/08/08 Fuji-Yoshida, Japan|August 8, 1999]]
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| number_of_legs    = 2
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| number_of_shows  = 46
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| number_of_cancelled_shows = 3
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| last_tour        = [[Support for Hole's Beautiful Monsters Tour]]<br>(1999)
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| this_tour        = [[Rock Is Dead (tour)|Rock Is Dead]]<br>(1999)
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| next_tour        = [[Guns, God and Government]]<br>(2000-2001)
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:''This article is about the tour. For the song, see [[Rock Is Dead (song)]].''
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'''Rock Is Dead''' was the seventh tour Marilyn Manson embarked on, under management of major record label [[Interscope Records]]. It was also the band's third tour to span over multiple legs, despite only spanning one leg more than that of the [[Mechanical Animals (tour)|previous]] tour. The band was on the tour from February 28, 1999 until August 8, 1999.
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The tour was notably marred by several incidents that caused several media outlets to remark that it was ill-fated.
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{{About|a band member|painting|Ginger (painting)}}
  
==Lineup==
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{{Musician
{{Lineup
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| Name                = Ginger Fish
| [[Marilyn Manson]] = vocals
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| Img                = Gingerholy.jpg
| [[John 5]] = guitar, acoustic guitar
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| Background          = non_vocal_instrumentalist
| [[Twiggy Ramirez]] = bass
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| Img_size            = 250
| [[Madonna Wayne Gacy]] = keyboards, percussions, programming
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| Genre              = Industrial metal, glam rock, pop, indie rock, gothic rock, gypsy jazz
| [[Ginger Fish]] = drums
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| Occupation          = Drummer
| An unknown female singer = backing vocals tour guest
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| Birth_name          = Kenneth Robert Wilson 
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| Alias              = Kenny Wilson
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| Born                = September 28, 1966 (age <yearsold d="28" m="09" y="1966"/>)
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| Died                =
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| Origin              = Framingham, Massachusetts
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| Instrument          = Drums, bass, guitars, piano
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| Years_active        = 1989–present
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| Label              = [[Interscope Records|Interscope]], [[Nothing]]  
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| Associated_acts    = [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]], [[Martyr Plot]], [[Rob Zombie]]
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| Notable_instruments = Premier Signia Marquis
 
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'''Kenneth Robert Wilson''' (born September 28, 1966), better known by his stage name '''Ginger Fish''', is a professional musician. He is the former drummer of [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]] and is currently involved in [[Rob Zombie]] and his side project [[Martyr Plot]]. His stage name is formed from the names '''''Ginger'' Rogers''' and '''Albert ''Fish'''''. He's been described by Manson as "the quietest and most dangerous of us all, a ticking time bomb gingerly waiting a cataclysmic explosion". Manson's also named Ginger as "the strangest and quietest person in the band". Ginger doesn't do drugs, a rather uncommon feat for members of the band.
  
====Supporting Acts====
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== Biography ==
*[[Hole]]
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Having played drums since he was in second grade, Wilson eventually went to the University of Nevada Las Vegas to study music; during that time he played with several underground bands from the area. The band Marilyn Manson had already agreed to replace their current drummer at the earliest opportunity. Ginger learned the drums off of the first album, ''[[Portrait of an American Family]]'', and was asked to join the band in march of 1995. Despite constant band member changes, Ginger is only the second drummer for the band, not counting a previously used drum machine; his playing can be heard on ''[[Smells Like Children]]'' and every subsequent Manson album, except ''[[Eat Me, Drink Me]]'', where Manson decided to use a drum machine. He was temporarily replaced by [[Chris Vrenna]] for a year when in 2004 during the [[2004/09/24 Cologne, Germany|Viva Comet Awards]] a head injury left him unable to tour; however, he remained a member of Marilyn Manson. While Manson was on tour, Ginger started a side project. Rumors of Ginger not returning to Marilyn Manson were squashed after he performed "[[This Is Halloween]]" on the [[2006/10/31 Los Angeles, CA|Tonight Show]] with the rest of the band. Though he did not appear on ''Eat Me, Drink Me'', he did [[Putting Holes in Happiness (Ginger Fish Remix)|a remix for the track]] "[[Putting Holes in Happiness]]", on which his piano playing can be heard.
*[[Jack Off Jill]]
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*[[Monster Magnet]]
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*Nashville Pussy
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==Track listing==
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== Injuries ==
[[Image:MALive5.jpg|thumb|right|230px|<small>The Band performing "[[The Reflecting God]]"</small>]]
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Ginger is known to have suffered many injuries while performing. His injuries include having a mic stand thrown at his head ([[1996/09/05 New York City, NY|video]]), having a guitar smashed full strength into his hand (nothing was broken in this case besides the guitar), tearing a ligament in his right knee, and falling off the back of his three-foot drum riser and subsequently off the stage (Ginger was replaced by [[Chris Vrenna]] after this incident so he could heal during the year-long tour). In addition to these, Ginger's drum tech became fed up with Marilyn trashing the drum sets during the [[Guns, God and Government]] tour. Hoping to put and end to this, the drum tech strapped the set to the riser. Manson simply broke the straps, and the extra force caused the kit (and Ginger) to be catapulted off the riser. When he landed, Ginger broke his collarbone. A month after this incident, a disc in his back herniated. Ginger has also had mononucleosis.
The following list contains the most commonly played songs in the order they were most generally performed:
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{{Setlist
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== Career ==
| intro = "[[Inauguration of the Mechanical Christ]]"
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=== In music ===
| "[[The Reflecting God]]"
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=== [[Marilyn Manson]] ===
| "[[Great Big White World]]"
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Ginger can be heard on ''[[Smells Like Children]]'' and every subsequent Manson album until and including ''[[The Golden Age of Grotesque]]'' (2003). On the [[Guns, God and Government]] tour in 2001, he broke his hand and collar bone while the band was destroying the stage at the end of a concert. However, he still played with one hand for the rest of the tour. He was temporarily replaced by [[Chris Vrenna]] for a whole year when in 2004 during the [[2004/09/24 Cologne, Germany|Viva Comet Awards]] a head injury left him unable to tour; however, he remained a member of Marilyn Manson.  
| "[[Cake and Sodomy]]"
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| "[[Get Your Gunn]]"
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| "[[Mechanical Animals (song)|Mechanical Animals]]"
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| "[[Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)]]" (with "[[Hell Outro]]")
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| "[[I Want to Disappear]]"
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| "[[The Speed of Pain]]"
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| "[[Astonishing Panorama of the Endtimes]]"
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| "[[Disassociative]]"
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| "[[The Speed of Pain]]"
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| "[[Rock Is Dead]]"
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| "[[The Dope Show]]"
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| "[[Lunchbox]]"
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| "[[Tourniquet]]"
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| "[[I Don't Like the Drugs (But the Drugs Like Me)]]"
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| "[[Rock 'n' Roll Nigger]]"
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| "[[Antichrist Superstar (song)|Antichrist Superstar]]"
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| "[[The Beautiful People (song)|The Beautiful People]]"
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| "[[My Monkey]]"
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| "[[Irresponsible Hate Anthem]]"
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| "[[1996]]"
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| "[[Spine of God]]" (feat. Dave Wyndorf)
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| outro = "[[Get My Rocks Off]]"
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=== Opening songs ===
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Fish did not contribute to Marilyn Manson's sixth studio album, ''[[Eat Me, Drink Me]]'' however, because he was not available during the haste-yet-steady writing and recording process of the album. Despite this, he still remained part of the band, performing drums during the 2007-2008 [[Rape of the World]] tour.
  
* "[[The Reflecting God]]"
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During the production of [[The High End of Low]], Ginger played the piano on "[[Into the Fire]]", however Chris Vrenna played drums on the whole album itself. <ref>[http://www.providermodule.com/media/?v=i/2009/twiggyrockone]. Rock One - Marilyn Manson, The Rise and Fall of Twiggy Stardust. June 2009.</ref>
* "[[Astonishing Panorama of the Endtimes]]" ([[1999/08/08 Fuji-Yoshida, Japan]])
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==Background==
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Ginger's role in the recording of ''[[Born Villain]]'' remained unknown. On February 23, 2011 Ginger Fish announced his departure from the band. {{cquote|author=Ginger Fish @ <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8vs304 Twitter]</span>|''After much deliberation and constant reflection of where my life has been , and where it could or should be heading , I am regretful to inform the general population that I have decided to step down as a member of Marilyn Manson , and see where my life , and the knowledge of my availability cares to take me . I can’t stand by to watch opportunities pass me by simply because the knowledge of my availability wasn’t clearly expressed by me . I wish my brothers well , and I expect nothing but great things from them . Sincerely , Ginger Fish''}} {{cquote|author=Ginger Fish @ <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.facebook.com/vjgingerfish/posts/10150105013981166 Facebook]</span>|''I am regretful to inform the fans that I have decided to step down as a member of Marilyn Manson , and see where my life , and the knowledge of my availability cares to take me . I can’t stand by to watch opportunities pass me by simply because the knowledge of my availability wasn’t clearly expressed by me . I wish my brothers well , and I expect nothing but great things from them . Sincerely , Ginger Fish''}}
{{Main|Support for Hole's Beautiful Monsters Tour}}
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The Rock Is Dead Tour was the result of a fallout between [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]] and [[Hole]] during the [[Support for Hole's Beautiful Monsters Tour|Beautiful Monsters Tour]].<ref name="MTV Hole Walks Out"/> The tour started initially with Manson as co-headliners with Hole<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430066/marilyn-manson-hole-announce-two-months-worth-dates.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson, Hole Announce Two Months Worth Of Dates |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-01-27 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430061/manson-hole-get-tour-on-road.jhtml |title=Manson, Hole Get Tour On The Road |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-02 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430073/courtney-love-considers-manson-morissette-tours-hole-gets-six-cma-nods.jhtml |title=Courtney Love Considers Manson, Morissette Tours As Hole Gets Six CMA Nods |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1998-12-02 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430058/hole-marilyn-manson-avoid-nostalgia-tour-rolls-into-seattle.jhtml |title=Hole, Marilyn Manson Avoid Nostalgia As Tour Rolls Into Seattle |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-05 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref><ref name="MTV Courtney Talks About Tour">{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430069/courtney-talks-about-holemanson-tour.jhtml |title=Courtney Talks About Hole/Manson Tour |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-01-07 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref>, but following Hole's departure from the tour,<ref name="MTV Hole Walks Out">{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430056/hole-walks-out-on-tour-manson-injury-postpones-several-dates.jhtml |title=Hole Walks Out On Tour, Manson Injury Postpones Several Dates |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-15 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430055/marilyn-manson-holes-departure-from-tour-not-personal-thing.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Says Hole's Departure From Tour "Not A Personal Thing" |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-15 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref> was renamed Rock Is Dead.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430057/marilyn-manson-talks-rock-survival-tour-with-hole-marches-on.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Talks Rock Survival As Tour With Hole Marches On |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-10 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref> [[Monster Magnet]], who were already opening for both bands<ref name="MTV Courtney Talks About Tour"/>, would assume Hole's place on the tour's playbill.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430051/manson-resumes-tour-without-hole-taps-nashville-pussy-jack-off-jill-upcoming-dates.jhtml |title=Manson Resumes Tour Without Hole, Taps Nashville Pussy And Jack Off Jill For Upcoming Dates |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-22 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref>
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=== Rob Zombie  ===
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[[Image:Gingerzombie.jpg|thumb|right|300px]] In 2011, Ginger joined former bandmate [[John 5]] on tour with Rob Zombie during the February USA warm up dates, while regular drummer, Joey Jordison, from Slipknot/Murderdolls toured in the UK with the Murderdolls. Ginger made his Zombie drumming debut on February 6 2011. A fan reviewing the show had this to say regarding Ginger's performance from February 10th, 2011:
  
==Performance and show themes==
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{{cquote|''Ginger Fish fit right in with the band, had all the songs down perfect and didnt miss a beat. The make up and the clothing were right for the show, with the white and bloody make up. I believe the drum solo he did tonight was longer than the one i had seen in videos from the santa cruz show. Rob mentioned that it was John 5 that suggested Ginger to Rob when Joey went on the road with the Murderdolls and that Ginger wasn't a good drummer, but a '''GREAT''' drummer! As a fan of both Manson and Zombie, it was awesome to see Ginger and 5 on stage together again.''|author=<span class="plainlinks">{{DeadLink | http://www.facebook.com/Bioexorcist | Tommy "Bio-Exorcist" Betelgeuse}}</span> <ref name="Betelgeuse">{{cite web|last=Betelgeuse |first= Tommy |deadurl=http://www.facebook.com/Bioexorcist |title= Fan review of Ginger's performance with Rob Zombie, Sacramento, CA |publisher=MansonWiki |date=2011-02-11|accessdate=2011-02-11}}</ref>}}
For the opening of the set list, Manson was lifted on a crucifix made out of television sets, he slowly descended using the same outfit seen in the "[[Rock Is Dead (song)#Music video|Rock Is Dead]]" video. For "[[I Don't Like the Drugs (But the Drugs Like Me)]]", huge lights arranged to spell D-R-U-G-S were placed behind the band. This is the first tour that featured heavy use of fireworks, as well as the first incorporation of a backup singer. Most self-mutilation appears to have stopped during this tour, but as seen on the ''[[God Is in the T.V.]]'' video, Manson still places himself under a lot of self inflicted pain.
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==Incidents==
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Ginger was officially announced as new drummer for Rob Zombie in April, 2011 via [[John 5]]'s <span class="plainlinks">[http://john-5.com/main/2011/04/22/rob-zombie-announces-new-drummer/ official site].</span>
[[File:MAEraLiveTwiggy2.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]
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The renaming caused a minor dispute with [[Korn]] and [[Rob Zombie]] as the two were already in the middle of a tour of the same name.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1430059/korn-revisits-bad-memories-manson-hole-tour-gets-rolling.jhtml |title=Korn Revisits Bad Memories Of Manson And Hole As Tour Gets Rolling |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-03-03 |accessdate=2011-03-07}}</ref>
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The first two performances were canceled after Manson sprained his ankle during the final Beautiful Monsters show in Los Angeles and rescheduled for later dates.<ref name="MTV Hole Walks Out"/>
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== VJ Ginger Fish Appearances ==
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The following is a list of all of VJ Ginger Fish's appearances.  
  
The final blow would come in April 1999 after the wake of the ''Columbine High School massacre''. After being linked by reporters and pundits,<ref>{{cite news|last=France |first=Lisa Respers |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/04/20/columbine.pop.culture/index.html?iref=allsearch |title=Columbine left its indelible mark on pop culture |work=''CNN'' |publisher=Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (Time Warner) |date=2009-04-20 |accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=D'Angelo |first=Joe |last2=Vineyard |first2=Jennifer |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1442018/20010322/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Bows Out Of Denver Ozzfest Date |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=2001-05-22 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref> many came to believe that Manson's music and imagery were, indeed, the killers' sole motivation,<ref>{{cite web|last=D'Angelo |first=Joe |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443825/20010517/marilyn_manson.jhtml |title=Colorado Governor, Congressman Support Anti-Manson Group |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=2001-05-21 |accessdate=2010-11-17}}</ref> despite later reports that the two were not fans.<ref>{{cite news|last=Holland |first=Meegan |url=http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/04/separating_myth_from_fact_on.html |title=Columbine High School massacre on 10th anniversary: 5 myths surrounding deadliest school attack in U.S. history |newspaper=The Grand Rapids Press |publisher=Advance Magazine Publishers, Inc. D.B.A. Booth Newspapers, Inc. |date=2009-04-20 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Cullen |first=Dave |url=http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/index.html |title=Inside the Columbine High investigation |work=Salon |publisher=Salon Media Group |date=1999-09-23 |accessdate=2010-08-15}}</ref> In the immediate aftermath, the band was prompted to cancel the five remaining dates of the tour out of respect for the victims, explaining, "It's not a great atmosphere to be out playing rock 'n' roll shows, for us or the fans."<ref name="NYTimesStern">{{cite news|last=Sterngold |first=James |url=http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/29/us/terror-in-littleton-the-culture-rock-concerts-are-cancelled.html?ref=marilyn_manson |title=Terror in Littleton: The Culture; Rock Concerts Are Cancelled |newspaper=The New York Times |publisher=The New York Times Company |date=1999-04-29 |accessdate=2010-11-22}}</ref><ref name="BBC Manson cancels rest of US tour">{{cite news|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/331363.stm |title=Manson cancels rest of US tour |work=''BBC News'' |publisher=BBC |date=1999-04-29 |accessdate=2010-11-18}}</ref><ref name="MTV Marilyn Manson cancelled">{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1427257/19990422/story.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Concert, Other Denver Events Cancelled In Wake Of High School Shooting |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-04-22 |accessdate=2010-11-16}}</ref> However, Manson steadfastly maintained that music, movies, books or video games are not to blame, stating,<ref name="NYTimesStern"/><ref name="BBC Manson cancels rest of US tour"/><ref name="MTV Marilyn Manson cancelled"/>
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|- style="background-color:#E2E2E2"
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! width="600" rowspan="1" | Date
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! width="600" rowspan="1" | Club
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! width="600" rowspan="1" | City
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|- bgcolor="#DDDDDD"
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| align="center" rowspan="1" colspan="5" | 2010
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|-
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| align="center" | April 24th, 2010  
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | May 15th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | May 30th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | June 12th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | June 18th, 2010  
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| align="center" | Carey Hart's Wasted Space
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| align="center" | Las Vegas, Nevada
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|-
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| align="center" | June 25th, 2010
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| align="center" | Dungeon Corp. Summer Solistice
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| align="center" | Van Nuys, California
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|-
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| align="center" | June 26th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | July 23rd, 2010  
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| align="center" | Club Circuitry
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| align="center" | Sacramento, California
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|-
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| align="center" | July 24th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | August 8th, 2010  
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| align="center" | Santos Party House
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| align="center" | New York City, New York
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|-
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| align="center" | August 14th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | August 28th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | September 11th, 2010  
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | September 25th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister Zombie Ball
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | October 9th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | October 20th, 2010
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| align="center" | Club Hell
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| align="center" | Providence, Rhode Island
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|-
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| align="center" | October 30th, 2010
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| align="center" | The Shelter
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| align="center" | Atlanta, Georgia
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|-
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| align="center" | November 6th, 2010  
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|-
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| align="center" | December 18th, 2010
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| align="center" | Bar Sinister
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| align="center" | Los Angeles, California
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|- bgcolor="#DDDDDD"
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| align="center" rowspan="1" colspan="5" | 2011
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|-
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| align="center" | January 16th, 2011
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| align="center" | The Asylum
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| align="center" | Sacramento, California
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|-
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| align="center" | January 31st, 2011
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| align="center" | The Asylum
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| align="center" | Sacramento, California
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|-
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| align="center" | March 27th, 2011
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| align="center" | Lizard Lounge / The Chruch
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| align="center" | Dallas, Texas
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|}
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{{cquote|The media has unfairly scapegoated the music industry and so-called Goth kids and has speculated, with no basis in truth, that artists like myself are in some way to blame. This tragedy was a product of ignorance, hatred and an access to guns. I hope the media's irresponsible finger-pointing doesn't create more discrimination against kids who look different.<ref name="NYTimesStern"/><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431704/marilyn-manson-postpones-us-tour-dates.jhtml |title=Marilyn Manson Postpones U.S. Tour Dates |work=''MTV News'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-04-28 |accessdate=2011-03-21}}</ref>}}
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== Filmography ==
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*''Closure'' (1997)
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*''[[Dead to the World]]'' (1998)
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*''[[God Is in the T.V.]]'' (1999)
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*''[[Guns, God and Government World Tour]]'' (2002)
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*''Rock am Ring 2003'' (2003)
  
===Columbine aftermath===
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== Equipment ==
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[[Image:Ginger1.jpg|thumb|right|300px]] [[Image:L 204493c0fd1f409ca649a808a061f564.jpg|thumb|right|300px]] '''Premier Drums'''  
A day after the shooting, State Senator Dale Shugars (R-Mich.) attended the band's concert, along with policy advisers, a local police officer and the state senate's sergeant-at-arms, at the [[1999/04/21 Grand Rapids, MI|Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, Michigan]] to conduct research for a proposed bill he had been authoring which would require parental warnings on concert tickets and promotional material for any performer that had released a record bearing the Parental Advisory sticker in the last five years.<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell"/> According to Shugars, the show began with the singer wearing "satanic wings" as he leapt from a cross that was eventually set on fire.<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell"/> He then described seeing fans, whom he described as normal kids, "under [Manson's] control" as he performed a sequence that "glorified the killing of a police officer."<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell"/> Finally, he reported the singer recounting a dream sequence in which cops perform sex acts on him before Jesus Christ descended out of a sky made of LSD and told him the real name of God is "Drugs."<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell"/> After which, the band launched into "[[I Don't Like the Drugs (But the Drugs Like Me)]]".<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell"/> Shugars expressed concern that these shows had adverse effects on concert-goers, "I think there's something going on that you can't see from the outside."<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell"/> He concluded that "[t]his whole thing is part of a drug-cultural type of thing, with a subculture of violence and killing and hatred, and anti-family values, anti-traditional values, anti-authority" and added that "We're having an alarming rate of killings in schools, and youth violence and an increase in drugs. I would say that though they're not all to be blamed on a shock entertainer like Marilyn Manson, I think he promotes it and can be part of the blame."<ref name="Manson Puts Fans Under Spell">{{cite web |last=Nelson |first=Chris |url=http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/513702/19990422/index.jhtml |title=Best Of '99: Lawmaker Says Marilyn Manson Puts Fans Under Spell |work=''VH1'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-04-22 |accessdate=2011-05-03}}</ref>
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On April 25, 1999, conservative pundit William Bennett and longtime Manson archnemesis<ref name="Manson bogey">{{cite news|last=Strauss |first=Neil |url=http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/17/arts/a-bogey-band-to-scare-parents-with.html |title=A Bogey Band to Scare Parents With |newspaper=The New York Times |publisher=The New York Times Company |date=1997-05-17 |accessdate=2011-05-03}}</ref> U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) pointed the group as a contributing factor to the massacre during their appearance on ''Meet the Press''.<ref name="Manson bashing">{{cite web|last=O'Connor |first=Christopher |url=http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/513754/19990427/index.jhtml |title=Colorado Tragedy Continues To Spark Manson Bashing |work=''VH1'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-04-27 |accessdate=2011-05-03}}</ref> Three days later, the city of Fresno, California unanimously passed a resolution condemning "Marilyn Manson or any other negative entertainer who encourages anger and hate upon the community as an offensive threat to the children of this community."<ref name="Fresno stay away">{{cite web |url=http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/513786/19990428/index.jhtml |title=California City Asks Marilyn Manson To Stay Away |work=''VH1'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-04-28 |accessdate=2011-05-03}}</ref> Councilman Henry Perea, the resolution's author, said, "If people were on the street and engaged in some of the same behaviors that [Manson] demonstrates onstage, they'd probably be arrested."<ref name="VH1 Politicians Go On Offensive">{{cite web |last=O'Connor |first=Christopher |url=http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/513908/19990501/index.jhtml |title=Politicians Go On Offensive Against Marilyn Manson |work=''VH1'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-05-01 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref> In Portsmouth, New Hampshire, students were barred from wearing Marilyn Manson T-shirts<ref name="Fresno stay away"/> The next day, ten U.S. Senators, spearheaded by U.S. Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), signed and sent a letter to Edgar Bronfman Jr., president of Interscope Records-owner Seagrams, requesting the voluntary cesation of his company's distribution of "music that glorifies violence" to children.<ref name="outraged assholes write letter"/> The signatories comprised of eight Republicans and two Democrats, namely, U.S. Senator Wayne Allard (R-Colo.), U.S. Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), U.S. Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine), U.S. Senator Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark.), U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), U.S. Senator Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), U.S. Senator Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.), U.S. Senator John Ashcroft (R-Mo.) and U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.).<ref name="VH1 Politicians Go On Offensive"/> The letter particularly pointed out the band, among others, for producing songs that "glorify death and human destruction" which "eerily reflect" the actions of Harris and Klebold.<ref name="outraged assholes write letter">{{cite web |url=http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/513848/19990429/index.jhtml |title=Outraged Senators Write To Manson's Label |work=''VH1'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-04-29 |accessdate=2011-05-03}}</ref>
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[[File:Sens. Hatch and Lieberman at the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation hearing.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Television screenshot of the hearing, used in the [http://www.nachtkabarett.com/hidden/yourburningflag.html YourBurningFlag.com] sister site. Sen. Hatch is seen holding a copy of ''[[Antichrist Superstar]]''.]] 
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A few days later, on May 4, 1999, a hearing on the marketing and distribution practices of violent content to minors by the television, music, film and video game industries was conducted before the United States Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation.<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize">{{cite web |last=O'Connor |first=Christopher |url=http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/513971/19990504/index.jhtml |title=Senators Criticize Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails At Hearing |work=''VH1'' |publisher=MTV Networks (Viacom) |date=1999-05-04 |accessdate=2011-05-03}}</ref> It was chaired by U.S. Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and comprised of eleven Republicans and nine Democrats, including U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah.) and U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) as well as cultural observers, professors and mental-health professionals that included William Bennett and the Archbishop of Denver, Reverend Charles J. Chaput.<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/> The band was among those criticized by the participants, besides fellow label-mate [[Nine Inch Nails]] and the 1999 Wachowski brothers film ''The Matrix'', for their alleged contribution to the environment that made a tragedy like Columbine possible.<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/> Senator Hatch thought that Manson truncated his band's US tour because "he or she or whatever the case might be realizes that he can be tremendously booed and that his work is tremendously offensive."<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/> Among the invited guests, the CEOs of four of the world's major music distributors declined to attend.<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/> This was denounced by Bennett who said their absence, nevertheless, amounted to a "[p]ublic shaming. My hunch is they will continue to ignore you like they did today."<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/> Outside observers such as Nina Crowley, director of the anti-censorship organization Mass Mic, expressed chagrin regarding the hearings, commenting that it was "a very stacked-looking thing."<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/> Hilary Rosen, president and CEO of the RIAA, shared this opinion and thought "it was staged as political theater [...] They just wanted to find a way to shame the industry, and I'm not ashamed."<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/>
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*18" Z3 China
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*14" Z3 Hi Hats (2 pairs)  
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*19" Z3 Rock Crash
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*12" A Special Recording Hi Hats
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*16" Z3 Medium Crash
  
Senators Brownback, Hatch and Lieberman concluded the proceedings by requesting an investigation from the Federal Trade Commission and the United States Department of Justice on marketing practices of the entertainment industry to minors.<ref name="VH1 Senators Criticize"/><ref name="Salon Hollywood on Trial">{{cite web |last=Tapper |first=Jake |url=http://www.salon.com/news/politics/feature/2000/08/29/hollywood/index.html |title=Hollywood on trial |work=Salon |publisher=Salon Media Group |date=2000-08-29 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref> The following month, President Bill Clinton granted that request adding that, "Kids steeped in the culture of violence do become desensitized to it and more capable of committing it."<ref name="Salon Hollywood on Trial"/><ref>{{cite news |last=Sylvester |first=Sherri |url=http://edition.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9906/30/movie.violence/index.html?iref=allsearch |title=Hollywood, government face off over violence in media |work=''CNN'' |publisher=Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (Time Warner) |date=1999-06-30 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref> The release of the FTC report on September 13, 2000 would later lead then-Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman to propose introducing legislation that would penalize distributors who participate in marketing and distributing adult-oriented media to minors.<ref>{{cite web |last=Eszterhas |first=Joe |url=http://www.salon.com/news/politics/feature/2000/09/14/hollywood |title=They came, they caved |work=Salon |publisher=Salon Media Group |date=2000-09-14 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last=Mancini |first=Al |url=http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=106111&page=1 |title=Commentary: Media Violence Report Is Flawed |work=''ABC News'' |publisher=American Broadcasting Company (ABC) |date=2000-04-26 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|url=http://edition.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/News/11/06/hollywood.politics/index.html?iref=allsearch |title=Entertainment industry an issue, asset for presidential campaign |work=''CNN'' |publisher=Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. (Time Warner) |date=2000-11-06 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/921219.stm |title=Hollywood denies 'selling violence' |work=''BBC News'' |publisher=BBC |date=2000-09-12 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref> The Media Marketing Accountability Act was introduced by Senator Lieberman on June 2001, co-sponsored by U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.).<ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/926161.stm |title=Directors call for tougher ratings |work=''BBC News'' |publisher=BBC |date=2000-09-15 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1398348.stm |title=Lieberman steps up Hollywood attack |work=''BBC News'' |publisher=BBC |date=2001-07-06 |accessdate=2011-05-04}}</ref>
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'''Electronics:'''  
  
==Radio Revolution ==
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*Akai S5000 drum module
During the Beautiful Monsters and Rock Is Dead tour, the band held a ''Radio Revolution'' contest. Fans would call local radio stations to request Marilyn Manson songs, keep a log of their attempts and submit the information to [[MarilynManson.com|the band's website]]. Winners, of which there were over 10 for every night of the tour, would win a backstage pass and the chance to meet Manson. During the Beautiful Monsters leg of the tour, it was rare for winners to actually get backstage as the band rarely held after show appearances. This improved and later into the Rock Is Dead leg of the tour, more winners actually were able to meet the band.
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*Akai MPC3000 sampling drum machine (for clicks and sequences)
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*Tascam DA-88s (3, providing click track and sound effects)
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*Aura Bass Shakers (2)
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*Crown 1200 power amp (for Aura Bass Shakers)
  
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==Photo Gallery==
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== Trivia ==
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*Ginger Fish once dated actress Alyson Hannigan.  
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*Ginger has suffered the most injuries out of any band member, past or present.
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*Ginger does not do drugs unlike the rest of the band.
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*Ginger was homeless and lived in a car for two years at one point in his life.
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*Ginger has a band of his own named Martyr Plot.
  
 
==References==
 
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*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0279277/ Ginger Fish] at The Internet Movie Database
  
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Ginger Fish
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Background information
Birth name Kenneth Robert Wilson 
Also known as Kenny Wilson
Born September 28, 1966 (age 57)
Origin Framingham, Massachusetts
Genre(s) Industrial metal, glam rock, pop, indie rock, gothic rock, gypsy jazz
Occupation(s) Drummer
Instrument(s) Drums, bass, guitars, piano
Years active 1989–present
Label(s) Interscope, Nothing
Associated acts Marilyn Manson, Martyr Plot, Rob Zombie
Notable instrument(s)
Premier Signia Marquis

Kenneth Robert Wilson (born September 28, 1966), better known by his stage name Ginger Fish, is a professional musician. He is the former drummer of Marilyn Manson and is currently involved in Rob Zombie and his side project Martyr Plot. His stage name is formed from the names Ginger Rogers and Albert Fish. He's been described by Manson as "the quietest and most dangerous of us all, a ticking time bomb gingerly waiting a cataclysmic explosion". Manson's also named Ginger as "the strangest and quietest person in the band". Ginger doesn't do drugs, a rather uncommon feat for members of the band.

Biography

Having played drums since he was in second grade, Wilson eventually went to the University of Nevada Las Vegas to study music; during that time he played with several underground bands from the area. The band Marilyn Manson had already agreed to replace their current drummer at the earliest opportunity. Ginger learned the drums off of the first album, Portrait of an American Family, and was asked to join the band in march of 1995. Despite constant band member changes, Ginger is only the second drummer for the band, not counting a previously used drum machine; his playing can be heard on Smells Like Children and every subsequent Manson album, except Eat Me, Drink Me, where Manson decided to use a drum machine. He was temporarily replaced by Chris Vrenna for a year when in 2004 during the Viva Comet Awards a head injury left him unable to tour; however, he remained a member of Marilyn Manson. While Manson was on tour, Ginger started a side project. Rumors of Ginger not returning to Marilyn Manson were squashed after he performed "This Is Halloween" on the Tonight Show with the rest of the band. Though he did not appear on Eat Me, Drink Me, he did a remix for the track "Putting Holes in Happiness", on which his piano playing can be heard.

Injuries

Ginger is known to have suffered many injuries while performing. His injuries include having a mic stand thrown at his head (video), having a guitar smashed full strength into his hand (nothing was broken in this case besides the guitar), tearing a ligament in his right knee, and falling off the back of his three-foot drum riser and subsequently off the stage (Ginger was replaced by Chris Vrenna after this incident so he could heal during the year-long tour). In addition to these, Ginger's drum tech became fed up with Marilyn trashing the drum sets during the Guns, God and Government tour. Hoping to put and end to this, the drum tech strapped the set to the riser. Manson simply broke the straps, and the extra force caused the kit (and Ginger) to be catapulted off the riser. When he landed, Ginger broke his collarbone. A month after this incident, a disc in his back herniated. Ginger has also had mononucleosis.

Career

In music

Marilyn Manson

Ginger can be heard on Smells Like Children and every subsequent Manson album until and including The Golden Age of Grotesque (2003). On the Guns, God and Government tour in 2001, he broke his hand and collar bone while the band was destroying the stage at the end of a concert. However, he still played with one hand for the rest of the tour. He was temporarily replaced by Chris Vrenna for a whole year when in 2004 during the Viva Comet Awards a head injury left him unable to tour; however, he remained a member of Marilyn Manson.

Fish did not contribute to Marilyn Manson's sixth studio album, Eat Me, Drink Me however, because he was not available during the haste-yet-steady writing and recording process of the album. Despite this, he still remained part of the band, performing drums during the 2007-2008 Rape of the World tour.

During the production of The High End of Low, Ginger played the piano on "Into the Fire", however Chris Vrenna played drums on the whole album itself. [1]

Ginger's role in the recording of Born Villain remained unknown. On February 23, 2011 Ginger Fish announced his departure from the band.

After much deliberation and constant reflection of where my life has been , and where it could or should be heading , I am regretful to inform the general population that I have decided to step down as a member of Marilyn Manson , and see where my life , and the knowledge of my availability cares to take me . I can’t stand by to watch opportunities pass me by simply because the knowledge of my availability wasn’t clearly expressed by me . I wish my brothers well , and I expect nothing but great things from them . Sincerely , Ginger Fish
—Ginger Fish @ Twitter
I am regretful to inform the fans that I have decided to step down as a member of Marilyn Manson , and see where my life , and the knowledge of my availability cares to take me . I can’t stand by to watch opportunities pass me by simply because the knowledge of my availability wasn’t clearly expressed by me . I wish my brothers well , and I expect nothing but great things from them . Sincerely , Ginger Fish
—Ginger Fish @ Facebook

Rob Zombie

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In 2011, Ginger joined former bandmate John 5 on tour with Rob Zombie during the February USA warm up dates, while regular drummer, Joey Jordison, from Slipknot/Murderdolls toured in the UK with the Murderdolls. Ginger made his Zombie drumming debut on February 6 2011. A fan reviewing the show had this to say regarding Ginger's performance from February 10th, 2011:
Ginger Fish fit right in with the band, had all the songs down perfect and didnt miss a beat. The make up and the clothing were right for the show, with the white and bloody make up. I believe the drum solo he did tonight was longer than the one i had seen in videos from the santa cruz show. Rob mentioned that it was John 5 that suggested Ginger to Rob when Joey went on the road with the Murderdolls and that Ginger wasn't a good drummer, but a GREAT drummer! As a fan of both Manson and Zombie, it was awesome to see Ginger and 5 on stage together again.
http://www.facebook.com/Bioexorcist ( Tommy "Bio-Exorcist" Betelgeuse)dead link [2]

Ginger was officially announced as new drummer for Rob Zombie in April, 2011 via John 5's official site.

VJ Ginger Fish Appearances

The following is a list of all of VJ Ginger Fish's appearances.


Date Club City
2010
April 24th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
May 15th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
May 30th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
June 12th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
June 18th, 2010 Carey Hart's Wasted Space Las Vegas, Nevada
June 25th, 2010 Dungeon Corp. Summer Solistice Van Nuys, California
June 26th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
July 23rd, 2010 Club Circuitry Sacramento, California
July 24th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
August 8th, 2010 Santos Party House New York City, New York
August 14th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
August 28th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
September 11th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
September 25th, 2010 Bar Sinister Zombie Ball Los Angeles, California
October 9th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
October 20th, 2010 Club Hell Providence, Rhode Island
October 30th, 2010 The Shelter Atlanta, Georgia
November 6th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
December 18th, 2010 Bar Sinister Los Angeles, California
2011
January 16th, 2011 The Asylum Sacramento, California
January 31st, 2011 The Asylum Sacramento, California
March 27th, 2011 Lizard Lounge / The Chruch Dallas, Texas

Filmography

Equipment

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Premier Drums

Zildjian cymbals:

  • 20" Z3 Rock Ride w/ 6" Zil Bel (Small)
  • 18" Z3 China
  • 14" Z3 Hi Hats (2 pairs)
  • 19" Z3 Rock Crash
  • 12" A Special Recording Hi Hats
  • 18" Z3 Medium Crash
  • 16" Z3 Medium Crash

Electronics:

  • Akai S5000 drum module
  • Akai MPC3000 sampling drum machine (for clicks and sequences)
  • Tascam DA-88s (3, providing click track and sound effects)
  • Aura Bass Shakers (2)
  • Crown 1200 power amp (for Aura Bass Shakers)

Other:

  • Aquarian drumheads
  • Promark TX5ABW sticks.
  • DW pedals
  • Gibraltar rack gear
  • Rock n Sock throne with back
  • Shure PSM700 hardwired in-ear monitor system
  • Ultimate Ears UE Pro 5 in-ear monitors
  • Audio-Technica drum mics

Trivia

  • Ginger Fish once dated actress Alyson Hannigan.
  • Ginger has suffered the most injuries out of any band member, past or present.
  • Ginger does not do drugs unlike the rest of the band.
  • Ginger was homeless and lived in a car for two years at one point in his life.
  • Ginger has a band of his own named Martyr Plot.

References

  1. [1]. Rock One - Marilyn Manson, The Rise and Fall of Twiggy Stardust. June 2009.
  2. Betelgeuse, Tommy (2011-02-11). "Fan review of Ginger's performance with Rob Zombie, Sacramento, CA". MansonWiki. 

External links