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'''SP: What is the primary role of the transgressive rock star? Is it to provide a safe space for kids to rebel in? Is it to hold up a mirror to society?'''
 
'''SP: What is the primary role of the transgressive rock star? Is it to provide a safe space for kids to rebel in? Is it to hold up a mirror to society?'''
  
'''MM:''' No, it’s for girls. It’s so you can get girls. Perhaps not everyone should be simplified in rock’n’roll or art. It’s not a girl in everyone’s case. But I think the only reason anyone makes anything is because they want to connect with somebody. And I think with rock’n’roll it comes down to being a rock star. It’s not oversimplifying what I do to say that; it would be simplifying the reason why I do it. I’ve said it right from the beginning: that I wanted to share the same feeling that I think everybody has. And I wanted to be a rock star because you get away with doing and saying things and not having to do other things. You sidestep the thing you see in front of you - this horrible future of 9-to-5. Slavery dressed up in the form of a pay cheque. Right now if I had to do something else, or if I was not able to do what I do, I don’t think there would be a point. That’s not being cynical - it’s just that I’ve seen so much. I couldn’t work like an everyday person. I think I work harder than anyone I know - it’s just that sometimes my work is doing drugs, drinking and taking my pants off in front of girls. Sometimes it’s writing words that get me to the point where I can take my pants off in front of girls; sometimes it’s writing a melody; sometimes it’s getting back together with my best friend [[Twiggy|Twiggy Ramirez]] and taking his pants off while he is playing guitar.
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'''MM:''' No, it’s for girls. It’s so you can get girls. Perhaps not everyone should be simplified in rock’n’roll or art. It’s not a girl in everyone’s case. But I think the only reason anyone makes anything is because they want to connect with somebody. And I think with rock’n’roll it comes down to being a rock star. It’s not oversimplifying what I do to say that; it would be simplifying the reason why I do it. I’ve said it right from the beginning: that I wanted to share the same feeling that I think everybody has. And I wanted to be a rock star because you get away with doing and saying things and not having to do other things. You sidestep the thing you see in front of you - this horrible future of 9-to-5. Slavery dressed up in the form of a pay cheque. Right now if I had to do something else, or if I was not able to do what I do, I don’t think there would be a point. That’s not being cynical - it’s just that I’ve seen so much. I couldn’t work like an everyday person. I think I work harder than anyone I know - it’s just that sometimes my work is doing drugs, drinking and taking my pants off in front of girls. Sometimes it’s writing words that get me to the point where I can take my pants off in front of girls; sometimes it’s writing a melody; sometimes it’s getting back together with my best friend [Twiggy Ramirez] and taking his pants off while he is playing guitar.
  
 
'''SP: Was there much mutual uncloaking of trouser regions going on between you and [[Twiggy]] now that you’re making music together again?'''
 
'''SP: Was there much mutual uncloaking of trouser regions going on between you and [[Twiggy]] now that you’re making music together again?'''
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'''SP: Peahen''''''.'''
 
'''SP: Peahen''''''.'''
  
'''MM:''' Whatever, pick an animal. They go with a male from another tribe and then they run back to the male from theirs and he is like, ‘I will defend you and I will kill everyone.’ That is the central transgression, so everything is about relationships and everything is about girlfriends, and rock’n’roll defined it because rock’n’roll happened at exactly the same time as media transformed. Rock’n’roll happened when colour television was invented. Ironically, [[References to John F. Kennedy in Marilyn Manson's music|JFK]] was killed the week after colour television came out. Or was it ironic? I would say not. If you want to have a million-hour long conversation with me, go and look up [multinational aerospace manufacturer] Lockheed Martin on the internet. You will be so shocked. They also invented the LP record, and the colour television. They also invented satellite, and every bomb ever dropped. They invented the black box. They owned the twin towers, and the plane that flew into them. Then you become very cynical and angry about the fact that it’s not a coincidence and everybody since the Roman empire has figured out: ‘Let’s cause people to fight each other and let’s sell them ways to do it.’ And rock’n’roll became the one thing that really fucked it up for them because they weren’t in charge of it. So they became in charge of it. And don’t think that it’s a coincidence that the people who invented all of the control invented the way to hear rock’n’roll.
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'''MM:''' Whatever, pick an animal. They go with a male from another tribe and then they run back to the male from theirs and he is like, ‘I will defend you and I will kill everyone.’ That is the central transgression, so everything is about relationships and everything is about girlfriends, and rock’n’roll defined it because rock’n’roll happened at exactly the same time as media transformed. Rock’n’roll happened when colour television was invented. Ironically, JFK was killed the week after colour television came out. Or was it ironic? I would say not. If you want to have a million-hour long conversation with me, go and look up [multinational aerospace manufacturer] Lockheed Martin on the internet. You will be so shocked. They also invented the LP record, and the colour television. They also invented satellite, and every bomb ever dropped. They invented the black box. They owned the twin towers, and the plane that flew into them. Then you become very cynical and angry about the fact that it’s not a coincidence and everybody since the Roman empire has figured out: ‘Let’s cause people to fight each other and let’s sell them ways to do it.’ And rock’n’roll became the one thing that really fucked it up for them because they weren’t in charge of it. So they became in charge of it. And don’t think that it’s a coincidence that the people who invented all of the control invented the way to hear rock’n’roll.
  
 
'''SP: Who are the most important transgressive figures?'''
 
'''SP: Who are the most important transgressive figures?'''
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