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The following interview with [[Marilyn Manson]] took place in August of 1996 at a house he had rented in New Orleans while recording ''[[Antichrist Superstar]]''. Parts of the interview were used in a piece about him I wrote for the music magazine ''huH''.
 
The following interview with [[Marilyn Manson]] took place in August of 1996 at a house he had rented in New Orleans while recording ''[[Antichrist Superstar]]''. Parts of the interview were used in a piece about him I wrote for the music magazine ''huH''.
  
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'''Are you evil?'''
 
'''Are you evil?'''
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Six years ago, when Marilyn Manson came out, it was on several different levels. It was symbolic to kind of shed the skin of my past — people refer to your given name as your Christian name — so there’s symbolism there, and it was also the idea that show business is so fake that I wanted to pick a name that was as fake as it could be so it would realer than anything else because it acknowledges itself as being fake. Marilyn Monroe itself was a fake name, and Charles Manson was not his born name either, so I thought that was an exciting irony for me. And, of course, the other reasons for Marilyn Manson being the dichotomy, the extreme positive and negative.
 
Six years ago, when Marilyn Manson came out, it was on several different levels. It was symbolic to kind of shed the skin of my past — people refer to your given name as your Christian name — so there’s symbolism there, and it was also the idea that show business is so fake that I wanted to pick a name that was as fake as it could be so it would realer than anything else because it acknowledges itself as being fake. Marilyn Monroe itself was a fake name, and Charles Manson was not his born name either, so I thought that was an exciting irony for me. And, of course, the other reasons for Marilyn Manson being the dichotomy, the extreme positive and negative.
  
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'''How long have you been living in New Orleans?'''
 
'''How long have you been living in New Orleans?'''
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Going into this album, the stuff that inspired me the most: [[David Bowie]]’s ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00001OH7S/ Diamond Dogs]'', [Pink Floyd’s] ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019VQSAXM/ The Wall]'', ''[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000005IU2/ Funhouse]]' by The Stooges, and ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000002KEN/ Billion Dollar Babies]'' by [[Alice Cooper]]. Those were some of my favorite albums as a kid, and all had stories that held them together, and one day I wanted to place my album alongside them.
 
Going into this album, the stuff that inspired me the most: [[David Bowie]]’s ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00001OH7S/ Diamond Dogs]'', [Pink Floyd’s] ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019VQSAXM/ The Wall]'', ''[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000005IU2/ Funhouse]]' by The Stooges, and ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000002KEN/ Billion Dollar Babies]'' by [[Alice Cooper]]. Those were some of my favorite albums as a kid, and all had stories that held them together, and one day I wanted to place my album alongside them.
  
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'''Speaking of other musicians, a couple years ago, some Norwegian death metal bands burned down churches. What did you think of this?'''
 
'''Speaking of other musicians, a couple years ago, some Norwegian death metal bands burned down churches. What did you think of this?'''
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Though I can’t say it was only my vision because I consider the rest of the band to be a part of it.
 
Though I can’t say it was only my vision because I consider the rest of the band to be a part of it.
  
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'''But they share your vision. It’s not like one guy suggested that a song feature a rhumba beat.'''
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Right, but that’s not to say that I’m the only creative person. Without their help, the album would never have happened. I don’t want anyone to think I’m a solo artists or anything like that. But it was a matter of me explaining where things were meant to go, and them believing in it and understand it.
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'''So even though it was your vision, you wouldn’t have done this a solo album?'''
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That’s not really the way I work. I enjoy working with other people. I like to be by myself, but I enjoy working with other people. It’s more gratifying to me when people are on the same wavelength.
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'''Well, there is that idea of the muse.'''
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When I look back at the lyrics on ''Antichrist Superstar'', I can’t remember when I wrote them. I can’t place a specific time or a day, or if they came from me or if they came from…. There are songs on the album that are innately written from my point of view, and there are some that are from some personality that I don’t understand that I’ve decided to label Antichrist Superstar. Just because I’m done with the album, doesn’t mean I understand it any more than anyone else who’s going to listen to it.
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One of the things that I’m also trying to get across is that I may be America’s answer to the Antichrist, but at the same time I’m trying to show that maybe that doesn’t make me such a bad person.
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'''I want to talk about some of the other albums you’ve done. One thing that struck me about ''[[Smells Like Children]]'' is that some of the instrumentals would be perfect for a [https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B014KXMDPC/ Resident Evil] game.'''
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That’s the only video game I played in he last year, and I totally agree with you.
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'''Did you beat it?'''
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Yeah, I got to the end. It took me a long time. It’s probably why our album took so long. I love that game. I would love to be a character in that game. When I was a kid I played the Kiss pinball game until I was broke, and I bought ''Journey Escape'' for the 2600.
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But going back to ''Smells Like Children'', that album’s title was, for me, a bit of a joke because people always assume that things I mention in songs are promoting child molestation. So as a bit of my own sarcasm, I wanted to make a children’s album, and the title was inspired by ''[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EPA3VA2/ Chitty Chitty Bang Bang]''. There was a character called the Child Catcher, he used his sense of smell to hunt down kids and kidnap them, and that was something that scared me when I was little. And when I got older, people reminded me of the character, they said, “You really look like the Child Catcher.” I had become what I was afraid of. So that album, I tried to point out the darker humor in a lot of things like ''[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZHR6PW/ Willie Wonka]'' and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The song “[[Everlasting Cocksucker]]” was a Wonka reference, while “[[Shitty Chicken Gang Bang]]” was a reference to that film.
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'''Right, obviously. Though it’s also obvious that some people only bought ''Smells Like Children'' because of your cover of “[[Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)|Sweet Dreams]].”'''
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Right. And that’s something else that always comes up, our hardcore fans resenting the newer fans that heard “Sweet Dreams.” And my point is always that at least we found a way to reach those people.
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A lot of people have this selfish mentality that they don’t want other people to hear about your band, but if you actually believe in what it’s about, you’d want more people to hear about it. You’d go like a missionary and stand on the corner and hand out CDs, if you believed in it as strong as I do.
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Now, I’m not going to say it was contrived, but “Sweet Dreams” was what I expected and what needed to be done. I’m not ashamed that it was popular, and I’m not necessarily proud that it was popular either, but I think it was exactly what needed to happen in order for us to be at the point where we are with ''Antichrist Superstar''.
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'''Are you ever weirded out by how devoted your fans are, how some dress up like you?'''
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That’s been happening for a couple of years now. I see that, and I think these people are expressing themselves, and that’s a good thing. But I’m also trying to tell people to be themselves, and that means “Be what you want to be, don’t be what I’m being.”
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'''Speaking of advice for people, would you ever want to have a kid?'''
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I think so. I don’t know when…. I have a dog, which is like having a kid.
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'''What’s the dog’s name?'''
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[[Lydia]] and [[Walter]]. It’s a girl dog, but I wanted a boy dog so I sometimes call her Walter. I’ve trained her to have a split personality. On many occasions I’ve caught my dog trying to hump other dogs, so there’s definitely a Walter personality there.
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As for kids, I think I would make a pretty good parent. I have the insight to see where my parents slipped up, and not resent them for it, I think I would approach parenthood differently than others would. I’m entertaining the idea, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
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'''Ever done something and realized it’s like [[Hugh Warner|your dad]]? Cuz I do that every time I sneeze.'''
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I catch that every once in a while. I find myself doing the things that I do like when my parents do. Strangely enough, I’ve seen pictures of my dad from Viet Nam, and he looks like me. Except with short hair.
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'''Do you get along with your parents?'''
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They came to visit me like a week ago, and they stayed here. They listened to the new album and it was something they really liked, where in the past they appreciated what I was doing but were like, “Couldn’t you make something nicer that I could listen to?” I don’t think they understand everything I do.
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As a kid, I resented my father ’cause he wasn’t around a lot. But now I appreciate him more. We talk more. He went through a lot of interesting stuff. He sprayed Agent Orange, and so at an early age I had to go to a lot of government testing to see if anything was wrong with me. They never had any conclusive decisions, but maybe if people are wondering why I turned out the way I did, it’s the government’s fault.
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