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Can someone tell me how to run this "START" program or whatever it's called? I have the album (Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death) ), and when I put the disc into my computer, all I get is a black screen with the picture of a cross made out of guns, and when I click on it, all it does is take me to the Interscope website. Little help? =o [[User:Raven the Ravenous|--Raven was here--]] 03:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
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This is a record of [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]]'s first and last performances of their material. The list is not updated automatically and may contain '''very''' outdated information.
  
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:it stopped being active years ago. [[User:NickSixx|NickSixx ]]
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===''[[Heaven Upside Down]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Revelation 12|Revelation #12]]" || [[2017/07/20 Budapest, Hungary|July 20, 2017]] || [[2018/05/05 Texcoco, Mexico|May 5, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Tattooed in Reverse]]" || [[2018/01/10 Phoenix, AZ|January 10, 2018]] || [[2018/05/05 Texcoco, Mexico|May 5, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[WE KNOW WHERE YOU FUCKING LIVE]]" || [[2017/07/20 Budapest, Hungary|July 20, 2017]] || [[2018/01/20 Denver, CO|January 20, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[SAY10]]" || [[2017/07/20 Budapest, Hungary|July 20, 2017]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[KILL4ME]]" || [[2017/09/27 Silver Spring, MD|September 27, 2017]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Saturnalia]]" || [[2017/11/27 Paris, France|November 27, 2017]] || [[2018/02/16 Sayreville, NJ|February 16, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[JE$U$ CRI$I$]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Blood Honey]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Heaven Upside Down]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Threats of Romance]]" || – || –
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|}
  
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The start program thing or the website? Because when I click the gun cross, it takes me to the Interscope website. =/ [[User:Raven the Ravenous|--Raven was here--]] 03:59, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
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===''[[The Pale Emperor]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Killing Strangers]]" || [[2014/04/09 Winnipeg, MB|April 9, 2014]] || [[2016/08/09 Salt Lake City, UT|August 9, 2016]] and [[2017/12/04 Manchester, England|December 4, 2017]]
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|-
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| "[[Deep Six]]" || [[2014/04/09 Winnipeg, MB|April 9, 2014]] || [[2018/10/28 Birmingham, AL|October 28, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Third Day of a Seven Day Binge]]" || [[2014/04/09 Winnipeg, MB|April 9, 2014]] || [[2017/12/06 Wolverhampton, England|December 6, 2017]]
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|-
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| "[[The Mephistopheles of Los Angeles]]" || [[2015/01/21 Washington, DC|January 21, 2015]] || [[2017/08/02 Kyiv, Ukraine|August 2, 2017]]
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|-
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| "[[Warship My Wreck]]" || [[2015/01/21 Washington, DC|January 21, 2015]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2016/08/25 Dallas, TX|August 25, 2016]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Slave Only Dreams to Be King]]" || [[2015/01/21 Washington, DC|January 21, 2015]] || [[2015/01/21 Washington, DC|January 21, 2015]]
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|-
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| "[[The Devil Beneath My Feet]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Birds of Hell Awaiting]]" || [[2015/02/13 Tempe, AZ|February 13, 2015]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2015/02/13 Tempe, AZ|February 13, 2015]]
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|-
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| "[[Cupid Carries a Gun]]" || [[2014/10/29 Santa Ana, CA|October 29, 2014]] || [[2016/11/04 Seoul, South Korea|November 4, 2016]]
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|-
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| "[[Odds of Even]]" || [[2015/10/15 Los Angeles, CA|October 15, 2015]] || [[2015/10/15 Los Angeles, CA|October 15, 2015]]
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|}
  
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== This article NEEDS a serious overhaul  ==
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===''[[Born Villain]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Hey, Cruel World...]]" || [[2012/04/27 Providence, RI|April 27, 2012]] || [[2014/08/14 Gampel-Bratsch, Switzerland|August 14, 2014]]
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|-
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| "[[No Reflection]]" || [[Golden Gods Awards 2012|April 11, 2012]] || [[2017/09/29 Pittsburgh, PA|September 29, 2017]]
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|-
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| "[[Pistol Whipped]]" || [[2012/04/27 Providence, RI|April 27, 2012]] || [[2013/05/30 Tempe, AZ|May 30, 2013]]
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|-
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| "[[Overneath the Path of Misery]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Slo-Mo-Tion]]" || [[2012/04/27 Providence, RI|April 27, 2012]] || [[2013/02/23 Las Vegas, NV|February 23, 2013]]
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|-
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| "[[The Gardener]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[The Flowers of Evil]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Children of Cain]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Disengaged]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Murderers Are Getting Prettier Every Day]]" || [[2012/05/11 Dallas, TX|May 11, 2012]] || [[2012/10/05 St. Louis, MO|October 5, 2012]]
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|-
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| "[[Born Villain (song)|Born Villain]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Breaking the Same Old Ground]]" || – || –
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|}
  
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This article is MOSTLY well written, the introduction specifically is commendable writing. However, the meat of the article (no pun intended), the "Concept" section is fucking atrocious. It just rambles in a schizophrenic and not very cohesive or coherent manner (the randomly placed snippet on Coma Black being Coma White's opposite number on this album the biggest offender).
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===''[[The High End of Low]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Devour]]" || [[2009/10/05 Perth, Australia|October 5, 2009]] || [[2009/12/21 Paris, France|December 21, 2009]] and [[2015/06/08 Copenhagen, Denmark|June 8, 2015]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Pretty as a Swastika]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2009/12/21 Paris, France|December 21, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[Leave a Scar]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2009/10/20 Osaka, Japan|October 20, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[Four Rusted Horses]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2013/07/09 Nashville, TN|July 9, 2013]]
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|-
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| "[[Arma-goddamn-motherfuckin-geddon]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2009/08/22 San Diego, CA|August 22, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[Blank and White]]" || [[2009/10/20 Osaka, Japan|October 20, 2009]] || [[2009/10/24 Mihama, Japan|October 24, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[Running to the Edge of the World]]" || [[2009/08/29 Reno, NV|August 29, 2009]] || [[2009/12/21 Paris, France|December 21, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[I Want to Kill You Like They Do in the Movies]]" || [[2009/09/07 Portland, OR|September 7, 2009]] || [[2009/09/08 Victoria, BC|September 8, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[WOW]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2009/09/17 Toronto, ON|September 17, 2009]] and [[2018/02/15 Huntington, NY|February 15, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Wight Spider]]" || [[2009/09/10 Calgary, AB|September 10, 2009]] || [[2009/09/26 Moncton, NB|September 26, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[Unkillable Monster]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[We're from America]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2009/12/13 Birmingham, England|December 13, 2009]]
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|-
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| "[[I Have to Look Up Just to See Hell]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Into the Fire]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[15]]" || – || –
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|}
  
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I should know, I helped write it and revise it many many times over the years from the Wikipedia page where all the stuff here was originally copied. And the current version in Wikipedia isn't finished as well either.
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===''[[Eat Me, Drink Me]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[If I Was Your Vampire]]" || [[2007/05/26 Landgraaf, Netherlands|May 26, 2007]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Putting Holes in Happiness]]" || [[2007/05/26 Landgraaf, Netherlands|May 26, 2007]] || [[2008/01/22 Atlanta, GA|January 22, 2008]]
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|-
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| "[[The Red Carpet Grave]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[They Said That Hell's Not Hot]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Just a Car Crash Away]]" || [[2007/05/26 Landgraaf, Netherlands|May 26, 2007]] || [[2007/10/31 Las Vegas, NV|October 31, 2007]]
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|-
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| "[[Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)]]" || [[2007/05/23 London, England|May 23, 2007]] || [[2008/03/02 Houston, TX|March 2, 2008]]
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|-
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| "[[Evidence]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Are You the Rabbit?]]" || [[2007/06/23 Scheeßel, Germany|June 23, 2007]] || [[2007/12/20 Helsinki, Finland|December 20, 2007]]
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|-
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| "[[Mutilation Is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[You and Me and the Devil Makes 3]]" || [[2007/05/26 Landgraaf, Netherlands|May 26, 2007]] || [[2007/12/11 Brussels, Belgium|December 11, 2007]]
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|-
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| "[[EAT ME, DRINK ME]]" || [[2007/06/05 Bercy, France|June 5, 2007]] || [[2007/06/05 Bercy, France|June 5, 2007]]
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|}
  
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I think the concept section needs to be expanded and the concept itself explained in detail (Kadmon's journey, etc.). Where's mention of the fact that it's divided into song cycles and how that relates to the storyline, the many references to the Beatles' White Album either in the lyrics themselves (ie. You Say you wanted evolution/You say you want a revolution... from Disposable Teens which clearly reference the song Revolution 1) or indirectly alluding to John Lennon himself and how both relate to Manson's criticism of the glorification of violence by mainstream American culture (as opposed to him) which both albums did. I believe Manson once also said that he intended for Holy Wood to be an industrial rock version of The White Album. What about the characters within the story? There's Adam Kadmon, but he's most likely only a collage representing humanity, and Coma Black. But what about President White (is he the one referred to as President Dead?), the King (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death &amp; King Kill 33.. an actual king or a pop culture reference to Elvis?) and who or what is the Born Again (or was that just a symbolic turning point in the revolution uttered by Kadmon).
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===''[[The Golden Age of Grotesque]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Thaeter]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[This Is the New Shit]]" || [[2003/05/16 Hollywood, CA|May 16, 2003]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[mOBSCENE]]" || [[2003/05/16 Hollywood, CA|May 16, 2003]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety-Zag]]" || [[2003/05/29 Lisbon, Portugal|May 29, 2003]] || [[2003/12/19 Stockholm, Sweden|December 19, 2003]]
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|-
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| "[[Use Your Fist and Not Your Mouth]]" || [[2003/05/29 Lisbon, Portugal|May 29, 2003]] || [[2003/12/19 Stockholm, Sweden|December 19, 2003]]
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|-
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| "[[The Golden Age of Grotesque (song)|The Golden Age of Grotesque]]" || [[2003/04/11 Berlin, Germany|April 11, 2003]] || [[2005/08/23 Budapest, Hungary|August 23, 2005]]
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|-
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| "[[(s)AINT]]" || [[2003/05/29 Lisbon, Portugal|May 29, 2003]] || [[2005/06/16 Hultsfred, Sweden|June 16, 2005]]
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|-
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| "[[Ka-boom Ka-boom]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Slutgarden]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Spade|♠]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Para-noir]]" || [[2003/06/02 Glasgow, Scotland|June 2, 2003]] || [[2003/10/04 Seoul, South Korea|October 4, 2003]]
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|-
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| "[[The Bright Young Things]]" || [[2003/07/06 Las Vegas, NV|July 6, 2003]] || [[2003/07/06 Las Vegas, NV|July 6, 2003]]
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|-
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| "[[Better of Two Evils]]" || [[2003/06/17 Leuven, Belgium|June 17, 2003]] || [[2003/06/17 Leuven, Belgium|June 17, 2003]]
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|-
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| "[[Vodevil]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Obsequey (The Death of Art)]]" || – || –
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|}
  
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I also think the portion on Mechanical Animals and Antichrist Superstar shouldn't be here. There's already a dedicated page on the Trilogy (whereas in Wikipedia there isn't) so why shouldn't we just write in something to the effect of "To read more on the Trilogy, go here...etc"?
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===''[[Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[GodEatGod]]" || [[2000/11/14 New York City, NY|November 14, 2000]] || [[2001/02/06 Bologna, Italy|February 6, 2001]]
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|-
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| "[[The Love Song]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2019/07/23 Sioux Falls, SD|July 23, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[The Fight Song]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2018/12/31 Los Angeles, CA|December 31, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Disposable Teens]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2018/10/27 New Orleans, LA|October 27, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis)]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[["President Dead"]]" || [[2000/12/16 Dallas, TX|December 16, 2000]] || [[2000/12/16 Dallas, TX|December 16, 2000]]
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|-
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| "[[In the Shadow of the Valley of Death]]" || [[2001/02/06 Bologna, Italy|February 6, 2001]] || [[2012/07/15 Prague, Czech Republic|July 15, 2012]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Cruci-Fiction in Space]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2018/12/31 Los Angeles, CA|December 31, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[A Place in the Dirt]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[The Nobodies]]" || [[2000/12/01 Madison, WI|December 1, 2000]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[The Death Song]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2001/10/08 Los Angeles, CA|October 8, 2001]]
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|-
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| "[[Lamb of God]]" || [[2004/12/20 Los Angeles, CA|December 20, 2004]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2004/12/20 Los Angeles, CA|December 20, 2004]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Born Again]]" || [[2001/02/15 Berlin, Germany|February 15, 2001]] || [[2001/03/11 Tokyo, Japan|March 11, 2001]]
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|-
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| "[[Burning Flag]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2001/06/18 Maryland Heights, MO|June 18, 2001]]
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|-
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| "[[Coma Black]]" || [[2008/01/19 Orlando, FL|January 19, 2008]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2012/06/07 Padova, Italy|June 7, 2012]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Valentine's Day]]" || [[2000/10/27 Minneapolis, MN|October 27, 2000]] || [[2001/06/18 Maryland Heights, MO|June 18, 2001]]
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|-
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| "[[The Fall of Adam]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[King Kill 33°]]" || [[2012/10/02 Broomfield, CO|October 2, 2012]] || [[2019/07/23 Sioux Falls, SD|July 23, 2019]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Count to Six and Die (The Vacuum of Infinite Space Encompassing)]]" || [[2000/11/14 New York City, NY|November 14, 2000]] || November 14, 2000
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|}
  
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I'm asking all this from this website because we're all supposed to be Manson fans - by extension fucking authorities on the subject matter and yet arguably Manson's strongest work to date lacks the wiki article (here or in wikipedia) to explain to detractors where they're all so wrong with this guy.  
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===''[[Mechanical Animals]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Great Big White World]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[2019/08/07 Winnipeg, Canada|August 7, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[The Dope Show]]" || [[1998/09/10 Los Angeles, CA|September 10, 1998]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Mechanical Animals (song)|Mechanical Animals]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[2008/03/02 Houston, TX|March 2, 2008]]
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|-
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| "[[Rock Is Dead]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Disassociative]]" || [[1999/08/02 Fukuoka, Japan|August 2, 1999]] || [[2015/04/24 Athens, GA|April 24, 2015]]
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|-
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| "[[The Speed of Pain]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[1999/04/28 Cedar Rapids, IA|April 28, 1999]]
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|-
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| "[[Posthuman]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[1999/04/25 Milwaukee, WI|April 25, 1999]]
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|-
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| "[[I Want to Disappear]]" || [[1998/12/11 Stockholm, Sweden|December 11, 1998]] || [[1999/08/08 Fuji-Yoshida, Japan|August 8, 1999]]
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|-
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| "[[I Don't Like the Drugs (But the Drugs Like Me)]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[1999/08/08 Fuji-Yoshida, Japan|August 8, 1999]] and [[2018/10/30 Hollywood, FL|October 30, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[New Model No. 15]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[User Friendly]]" || [[1998/10/25 Lawrence, KS|October 25, 1998]] || [[1999/04/25 Milwaukee, WI|April 25, 1999]]
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|-
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| "[[Fundamentally Loathsome]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[The Last Day on Earth]]" || [[1998/12/31 Las Vegas, NV|December 31, 1998]] || [[2012/12/21 Minsk, Belarus|December 21, 2012]]
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|-
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| "[[Coma White]]" || [[1999/03/03 Seattle, WA|March 3, 1999]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|}
  
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-[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 03:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)  
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===''[[Antichrist Superstar]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[Irresponsible Hate Anthem]]" || [[1995/10/05 Portland, OR|October 5, 1995]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[The Beautiful People]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Dried Up, Tied and Dead to the World]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[2018/10/31 Orlando, FL|October 31, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Tourniquet]]" || [[1995/11/01 Boston, MA|November 1, 1995]] || [[2018/08/05 Louisville, KY|August 5, 2018]]
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|-
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| "[[Little Horn]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[2014/08/11 Vienna, Austria|August 11, 2014]]
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|-
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| "[[Cryptorchid]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[1997/04/09 Little Rock, AR|April 9, 1997]]
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|-
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| "[[Deformography]]" || [[1997/02/14 Dayton, OH|February 14, 1997]] || [[1997/09/08 Sao Paulo, Brazil|September 8, 1997]]
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|-
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| "[[Wormboy]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Mister Superstar]]" || [[1997/01/17 San Francisco, CA|January 17, 1997]] || [[2015/01/21 Washington, DC|January 21, 2015]]
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|-
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| "[[Angel with the Scabbed Wings]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Kinderfeld]]" || [[1996/09/05 New York City, NY|September 5, 1996]] || [[1997/07/31 Toronto, Canada|July 31, 1997]]
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|-
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| "[[Antichrist Superstar (song)|Antichrist Superstar]]" || [[1995/10/22 Colombus, OH|October 22, 1995]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[1996]]" || [[1996/09/05 New York City, NY|September 5, 1996]] || [[2012/03/15 Taipei, Taiwan|March 15, 2012]]
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|-
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| "[[Minute of Decay]]" || [[1996/02/03 St. Petersburg, FL|February 3, 1996]] || [[1997/09/14 Santiago, Chile|September 14, 1997]] and [[2005/08/23 Budapest, Hungary|August 23, 2005]]
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|-
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| "[[The Reflecting God]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[2019/07/24 Bismarck, ND|July 24, 2019]]
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|-
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| "[[Man That You Fear]]" || [[1996/10/03 Kalamazoo, MI|October 3, 1996]] || [[2015/11/12 Stuttgart, Germany|November 12, 2015]]
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|}
  
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:Hi there again, and thanks for the questions/input. Yes, I agree the Mechanical Animals and Antichrist Superstar portions of this article should be removed and a link to the Triptych page as suggested. The lyrical references that you have mentioned should probably be noted under the Trivia heading. Regarding concept, [god]speed and myself have always had a very strong interest in the interpretation of Manson's work. However, in the interests of MansonWiki, we strive to keep information factual. I'm sure you can understand that due to the complexity of the Triptych there are multiple perspectives and there are many different interpretations. So unless you can find direct quotes from Manson, with references, we would like to steer clear of the ambiguous. [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡]] 08:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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===''[[Smells Like Children]]''===
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{| class="maintable odd-even-rows-table" style="width: 100%;"
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! Song title !! First performance !! Last performance
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|-
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| "[[The Hands of Small Children]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Diary of a Dope Fiend]]" || [[2000/11/10 Tampa, FL|November 10, 2000]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2019/10/31 Las Vegas, NV|October 31, 2019]]<ref name="portions"/>
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|-
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| "[[Shitty Chicken Gang Bang]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Kiddie Grinder]]" || – || –
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|-
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| "[[Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)]]" || [[1994/01/01 Fort Lauderdale, FL|January 1, 1994]] || [[2019/11/03 Phoenix, AZ|November 3, 2019]]
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| "[[Everlasting Cocksucker]]" || – || –
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| "[[Fuck Frankie]]" || – || –
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| "[[I Put a Spell on You]]" || [[1994/06/29 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 29, 1994]] || [[1994/11/09 Champaign, IL|November 9, 1994]]
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| "[[Scabs, Guns and Peanut Butter]]" || – || –
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| "[[Dance of the Dope Hats]]" || – || –
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| "[[Dancing with the One-Legged...]]" || – || –
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| "[[White Trash]]" || – || –
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| "[[Rock 'n' Roll Nigger]]" || [[1994/12/27 Jacksonville, FL|December 27, 1994]] – || [[2018/02/16 Sayreville, NJ|February 16, 2018]]
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::Here's a link I've found. Don't know how much it'll help but I feel with the 10th anniversary of this album coming up very soon, the article needs some major cleaning up.
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===''[[Portrait of an American Family]]''===
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| "[[Prelude (The Family Trip)]]" || [[1994/01/01 Fort Lauderdale, FL|January 1, 1994]] – || [[2018/10/28 Birmingham, AL|October 28, 2018]]
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| "[[Cake and Sodomy]]" || [[1990/06/01 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 1, 1990]] – || [[2018/10/28 Birmingham, AL|October 28, 2018]]
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| "[[Lunchbox]]" || [[1990/09/13 Fort Lauderdale, FL|September 13, 1990]] – || [[2018/02/16 Sayreville, NJ|February 16, 2018]]
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| "[[Organ Grinder]]" || [[1991/12/04 Fort Lauderdale, FL|December 4, 1992]] – || [[1996/02/04 Stuart, FL|February 4, 1996]]
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| "[[Cyclops]]" || [[1990/09/13 Fort Lauderdale, FL|September 13, 1990]] – || [[1995/12/31 New York City, NY|December 31, 1995]]
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| "[[Dope Hat]]" || [[1990/09/13 Fort Lauderdale|September 13, 1990]] – || [[1996/02/04 Stuart, FL|February 4, 1996]]
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| "[[Get Your Gunn]]" || [[1991/12/04 Fort Lauderdale, FL|December 4, 1991]] – || [[2014/08/12 Prague, Czech Republic|August 12, 2014]]
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| "[[Wrapped in Plastic]]" || [[1991/12/04 Fort Lauderdale, FL|December 4, 1991]] – || [[1995/12/01 Wilmington, NC|December 1, 1995]]
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| "[[Dogma]]" || [[1991/12/04 Fort Lauderdale, FL|December 4, 1991]]  – || [[1997/03/22 Honolulu, HI|March 22, 1997]]
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| "[[Sweet Tooth]]" || [[1993/04/16 Fort Lauderdale, FL|April 16, 1993]] - || [[1995/11/24 Detroit, MI|November 24, 1995]]
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| "[[Snake Eyes and Sissies]]" || [[1991/12/04 Fort Lauderdale|December 4, 1991]] – || [[1996/02/04 Stuart, FL|February 4, 1996]]
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| "[[My Monkey]]" || [[1990/06/01 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 1, 1990]] – || [[2003/10/23 Boston, MA|October 23, 2003]]
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| "[[Misery Machine]]" || [[1990/09/13 Fort Lauderdale|September 13, 1990]] – || [[1997/01/28 San Diego, CA|January 28, 1997]]
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::Linky: [http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.14.00/cover/manson-0050.html Into the Mind of Marilyn] - [[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 13:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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===Bonus and non-album material===
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| "[[Apple of Sodom]]" || [[1997/02/05 Oklahoma City, OK|February 5, 1997]] || [[1997/09/16 Mexico City, Mexico|September 16, 1997]]
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| "[[Astonishing Panorama of the Endtimes]]" || [[1999/06/18 Hultsfred, Sweden|June 18, 1999]] || [[2003/06/10 Poznan, Poland|June 10, 2003]]
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| "[[Cry Little Sister]]" || [[2018/06/01 Nürburg, Germany|June 1, 2018]] || [[2018/10/31 Orlando, FL|October 31, 2018]]
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| "[[Down in the Park]]" || [[1994/06/04 Davie, FL|June 4, 1994]] || [[1995/02/01 Minneapolis, MN|February 1, 1995]]
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| "[[Five to One]]" || [[2012/08/18 West Hollywood, CA|August 18, 2012]] || [[2015/07/24 Tampa, FL|June 24, 2015]]<ref name="portions"/>
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| "[[God's Gonna Cut You Down (song)|God's Gonna Cut You Down]]" || [[2019/10/24 San Antonio, TX|October 24, 2019]] || [[2019/10/24 San Antonio, TX|October 24, 2019]]
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| "[[Long Hard Road Out of Hell]]" || – || <ref name="portions"/>
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| "[[Personal Jesus]]" || [[2004/09/17 London, UK|September 17, 2004]] || [[2017/07/21 Katowice, Poland|July 21, 2017]]
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| "[[Sick City]]" || [[2017/11/20 Vienna, Astria|November 20, 2017]] || [[2017/11/23 Zurich, Switzerland|November 23, 2017]]
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| "[[Suicide Is Painless]]" || [[2000/11/14 New York City, NY|November 14, 2000]] || [[2000/11/14 New York City, NY|November 14, 2000]]
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| "[[Tainted Love]]" || [[2003/05/29 Lisbon, Portugal|May 29, 2003]] || [[2018/10/31 Orlando, FL|October 31, 2018]]
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| "[[The Suck for Your Solution]]" || [[1997/04/05 LaCrosse, WI|April 5, 1997]] || [[1997/06/22 Minneapolis, MN|June 22, 1997]]
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| "[[The Tourniquet Prosthetic Dance Mix]]" || [[1997/02/08 Omaha, NE|February 8, 1997]] || [[1997/09/16 Mexico City, Mexico|September 16, 1997]]<ref name="portions"/>
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| "[[This Is Halloween]]" || [[2006/10/31 Los Angeles, CA|October 31, 2006]] || [[2007/10/31 Las Vegas, NV|October 31, 2007]]
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| "[[What Goes Around... Comes Around]]" || [[2007/05/23 London, England|May 23, 2007]] || [[2007/05/23 London, England|May 23, 2007]]
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| "[[Working Class Hero]]" || [[2000/11/14 New York City, NY|November 14, 2000]] || [[2000/11/14 New York City, NY|November 14, 2000]]
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:::Consider the changes I've made today on this page, the Triptych and the Antichrist Superstar page the first salvo, nay, the first goosestep on the road to rehabilitation. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 07:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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===Unrecorded songs===
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:Spoke too soon. The more I think I've perfected it, the more I find ways to improve it. [[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 07:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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| "[[1999]]" || [[1997/02/08 Omaha, NE|February 8, 1997]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[1997/09/16 Mexico City, Mexico|September 16, 1997]]<ref name="portions"/>
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I'll bracket and highlight the portions I've added. Admittedly, I was stoned on something really good last night when I wrote them, listening to Holy Wood. I find this method makes everything so much more meaningful and intense (as unconventional a method as it is). I was literally punching the wall with my fist during "Burning Flag", trying to get them to open.
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| "[[Alabama Song]]" || [[2003/04/11 Berlin, Germany|April 11, 2003]] || [[2003/04/11 Berlin, Germany|April 11, 2003]]
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By the way, I saw on Babalon that someone quoted what I wrote on Wikipedia to interpret "The Love Song": "metaphors the father as the arm, the mother as the gun, and the children as the bullet". Just thought it was funny (so much more meaningful, see?). Anyway, for your consideration:
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| "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]" || [[1997/06/22 Minneapolis, MN|June 22, 1997]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2009/12/21 Paris, France|December 21, 2009]]<ref name="portions"/>
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The backdrop of ''Holy Wood's'' storyline revolves around the two duelling regions of "Holy Wood" and "Death Valley". Its protagonist is "Adam Kadmon", an abstract character borrowed from the Kabbalah where he is described as the archetype for humanity and the first Adam from which every soul is descended. He is an anti-hero and a "rebel from the waist down" from Death Valley '''[who is "having an intense love relationship with a .9mm high-powered rifle".]''' He is threading his way through Holy Wood, '''[a surreal but thinly veiled take on America where religion and violence mean exactly the same, JFK is the TV-martyred modern day Christ, dead celebrities are saints and Jackie O is Mary Immaculate.]''' His revulsion at what he finds causes him to trigger a revolution through music to rail against "the old deceivers" - the "bitter thinkers who buy their tickets to go find god like a piggy in a fair". But it all soon goes wrong when his revolution is exploited by society. It is notable that the tragic and ill-fated character Coma White (from ''Mechanical Animals''), which Adam has a quasi-romantic interest for, is referred to on this album as "Coma Black". At the record's conclusion, a defeated and disillusioned Kadmon is on the verge of suicide and can be heard playing Russian roulette with a revolver. His fate is deliberately left unknown after the fifth cock of the pistol.
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| "[[Come Together]]" || [[1994/06/29 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 29, 1994]] || [[2014/01/25 Los Angeles, CA|January 25, 2014]]
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| "[[Dirt]]" || [[1995/12/02 Atlanta, GA|December 2, 1995]] || [[1996/02/04 Stuart, FL|February 4, 1996]]
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| "[[Happiness Is a Warm Gun]]" || [[1994/05/04 Houston, TX|May 4, 1994]]<ref name="portions"/> || [[2013/07/06 Indianapolis, IN|July 6, 2013]]<ref name="portions"/>
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| "[[Helter Skelter (1994)]]" || [[1994/09/22 New York City, NY|September 22, 1994]] || [[1995/03/11 Columbia, SC|March 11, 1995]]
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Honestly, &nbsp;I think most of your analysis is more relevant in the Interpretations section of Babalon, where it is more appropriate as opposed to the Manson Wiki considering we strive to be a factual database for reference. Both '''&lt;me&gt;''' &amp; myself ('''[g]S''')&nbsp;have always been interested in analysis of Manson's work, and have done a massive amount of research into all things esoteric, influential, and related to Manson's body of work for years. &nbsp;As mentioned, either of us, &lt;me&gt; or myself could very easily write up analytical summaries of the storyline, however, I think that passing a singular version of the storyline off as point of reference for others to base their interpretations upon kind of goes against the idea of analysis, As you have to consider that most people will believe whatever is written, and will look no further than what they read.&nbsp;&nbsp;Like Manson says in Doppelherz, "Each time someone believes what I say, It becomes a lie." &nbsp;
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| "[[Helter Skelter]]" || [[2018/07/11 Detroit, MI|July 11, 2018]] || [[2019/08/18 Gilford, NH|August 18, 2019]]
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| "[[Hotel California]]" || [[2012/08/04 Los Angeles, CA|August 4, 2012]] || [[2012/08/04 Los Angeles, CA|August 4, 2012]]
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What I disagree with int your analysis is that you make it seem that there are different characters involved, Whereas I might be more inclined to believe that they are merely extensions of the same character. Also, you can't necessarily state&nbsp;that Death Valley &amp; Holy Wood are separate places based on the Fight Song video, Who's to say that the video is not merely referencing the duality of "good vs bad" as mentioned in the chorus and throughout Manson's work?&nbsp;
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| "[[I Got You]]" || [[1994/06/29 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 29, 1994]] || June 29, 1994
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I would be more inclined to think that one man's '''''Holy Wood''''' is another man's '''''Death Valley'''''. Much like Kurosawa's'''''High &amp; Low''''', ( a film which Manson referenced with the font of The High End of Low) &nbsp;The story focuses around the duality of two characters and how they are essentially based off of one another, Gondo's home that is perched high above the city below him is his oasis, while down in the busy streets, Takeuchi is forced to look up at Gondo's home on the hill and every day and face his own private hell, which was Gondo's heaven. &nbsp;<br> <br>
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| "[[It's a Small World]]" || [[2003/06/04 London, England|June 4, 2003]] | [[2003/12/19 Stockholm, Sweden|December 19, 2003]]<ref name="portions"/>
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While my interpretation may be completely wrong, it does open up room for discussion and may cause you to re-evaluate your views, which doesn't mean my version is any more correct than yours, but what I'm trying to illustrate is that you simply cannot tie down the concept of the triptych into a linear, or typical fashion. There are many key elements that are open to interpretation,&nbsp;&nbsp;such as the importance of Valentine's Day 1997 and the reason why it is played out throughout each album in the triptych, amongst other things, It's more of a subject for discussion than it is for summarizing.&nbsp;
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| "[[Little Child]]" || – || [[2004/12/20 Los Angeles, CA|December 20, 2004]]<ref name="portions">Portions of the song were played live, but the song was not played in its entirety.</ref>
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| "[[The High End of Low (intro)]]" || [[2009/06/03 Brno, Czech Republic|June 3, 2009]] || [[2009/12/21 Paris, France|December 21, 2009]]
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<br>[[User:Godspeed|[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 11:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
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| "[[Mirror People]]" || [[1994/06/29 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 29, 1994]] || [[1994/06/29 Fort Lauderdale, FL|June 29, 1994]]
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::There are two bodies in the concept section. One dealing with the state of then-current events in 1999-2000 which gave birth to this album and the other half dealing with the storyline itself, it's placement within the trilogy and Manson's interpretation of it. The first half, I believe, is pretty objective on my part, being heavily referenced from Manson's interviews or contemporary reviews of the album. I believe the sticky issue deals with the second half, especially the last paragraph.
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| "[[Put a Little Love in Your Heart]]" || [[2009/10/07 Adelaide, Australia|October 7, 2009]]<sup>[[#Footnotes|1]]</sup> || [[2009/10/07 Adelaide, Australia|October 7, 2009]]<sup>[[#Footnotes|1]]</sup>
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::I will concede that it is pretty poorly written, however, what will we put in its place? We can't completely omit it as that would imply to some readers there is none. A lot people will also believe whatever is ''not'' written. I think at the very least, we need to come to a consensus on a basic, hopefully unbiased, framework in which to give people a point of reference with regards to the storyline. The ''laissez-faire'' approach isn't really helping either.
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| "[[Smells Like Children (song)|Smells Like Children]]" || [[1995/09/15 Dallas, TX|September 15, 1995]] || [[1995/12/04 Charlotte, NC|December 4, 1995]]
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::I propose the reedited paragraph below as a quick bandaid until such time that a consensus can be made. Also use it as a template for the finalized paragraph:
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| "[[Surrender]]" || [[2000/12/31 New York City, NY|December 31, 2000]] || [[2000/12/31 New York City, NY|December 31, 2000]]
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| "[[Where Did Our Love Go]]" || [[2003/12/12 Vienna, Austria|December 12, 2003]]<sup>[[#Footnotes|1]]</sup> || [[2003/12/12 Vienna, Austria|December 12, 2003]]<sup>[[#Footnotes|1]]</sup>
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:::''Holy Wood's'' storyline revolves around its protagonist "[[Adam Kadmon]]", an abstract character borrowed from the Kabbalah where he is described as the archetype for humanity and the first Adam from which every soul is descended<ref>{{cite web|last=Quelland |first=Sarah |url=http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.14.00/cover/manson-0050.html |title=Into the Mind of Marilyn |publisher=Metroactive Music |date=2000-12-14 |accessdate=2010-08-10}}</ref>. His revulsion at the world he observes catalyzes him to start a revolution but it all soon goes wrong when his revolution is exploited by society and falls victim to "[[Celebritarian Corporation#The_meaning|Celebritarianism]]", Holy Wood's quasi-religion of celebrity-worship with a special emphasis on 'dead stars', called "[[Lamb of God|Lambs of God]]"<ref>{{cite web|last=Long |first=April |url=http://www.nme.com/reviews/marilyn-manson/3456 |title=Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) album review |publisher=NME Magazine |date=2000-11-10 |accessdate=2010-08-26}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Robinson |first=Charlotte |url=http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/m/mansonmarilyn-holywood.shtml |title=Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) album review |publisher=PopMatters |date=2000-12-14 |accessdate=2010-08-22}}</ref>. Adam's romantic interest, the ill-fated daughter of President White, [[Coma White]], is notably referred to on this album as "[[Coma Black]]"<ref>{{cite web|last=Quelland |first=Sarah |url=http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.14.00/cover/manson-0050.html |title=Into the Mind of Marilyn |publisher=Metroactive Music |date=2000-12-14 |accessdate=2010-08-10}}</ref>. '''[She is taken away from Adam by Holy Wood to be turned into another Lamb of God (TV martyr). They would remember her martyrdom as "[[Valentine's Day]]". As Adam witnesses this, his disillusionment takes a dark turn and he takes one last stand as a haranguing demagogue, berating the people if "[they still] love [their] Guns, God and Government?". He then seeks out to "[[King Kill 33°|kill the king]]".]''' At the record's conclusion, Coma Black is playing Russian roulette and on the verge of taking her own life. Her fate is deliberately left unknown after the fifth cock of the firing hammer<ref>{{cite web|last=Quelland |first=Sarah |url=http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.14.00/cover/manson-0050.html |title=Into the Mind of Marilyn |publisher=Metroactive Music |date=2000-12-14 |accessdate=2010-08-10}}</ref>.
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::::We are going to have to discuss this with the rest of the administration team. Your interpretations, on top of the full plate of work that we already have to do in regards to interviews and the site is just too much at the moment, So until the administrators can come to some sort of agreement on our position for analysis on the site, we are going to protect the pages.&nbsp;[[User:Godspeed|[god]speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 11:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br><br>
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::::Sorry Red but I have to agree with [God]speed on this, there are just too many edits to keep going over and over..You're also starting to head into a lot of grey areas that are really open to too much interpretation. You're implying that Coma White/Black, were real, where as there are opinions that she was just an unattainable ideal, or yet again a multiple/alternate delusional personality of ADAM. I can assure you that we're very grateful for your work here, perhaps if you would like to make a thread on our forum to discuss and analyse these topics we can then go over concepts et cetera and hash things out there rather than going over edits.&nbsp;:) [[User:‡-me-‡|‡-me-‡ - MansonWiki Admin]] 11:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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:::::I understand. I'll be very curious to hear very soon. -[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] 11:34, 14 September 2010 (UTC)Here is the forum topic where you can discuss ideas for the articles [http://www.mansonwiki.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1137] {{unsigned|Godspeed}}
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I'm celebrating the tenth anniversary of Holy Wood in my own way - by writing a proper wiki article for the record. Speaking of which, I've made great strides in that regard on Wikipedia. So how about importing it here? I know it's an old argument so, to assuage any reservations you admins might have, how about one of you check it out. It will only take 5 minutes to shoot through it.
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Is the page not showing up for anyone else? [[User:yawaraey|yawaraey]] <small>([[User talk:yawaraey|talk]])</small> 01:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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Yes, there is a major glitch in editing. Which is why I originally protected this page and a few others. The only way to 'fix' the glitch in the article is to not add content :/  Litso & Scarshock are looking into it.
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: Why the page was removed? We've lost over 25.000 of views. Also this page currently isn't showing for me. --[[User:M1shael|M1shael]] 13:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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For the past two weeks there has been a major glitch where any edits to this page result in the content blanking. I've mentioned it to Litso/Scarshock and haven't heard anything back. Page views don't mean anything if you can't contribute to an article, and RedMarquis has been wanted to add content to this article but once anyone edits it, it blanks the page but the content is still there when you edit. I don't know what the deal is with it. [[User:Godspeed|&#91;god&#93;speed -MansonWiki Admin]] 14:39, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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This is a record of Marilyn Manson's first and last performances of their material. The list is not updated automatically and may contain very outdated information.

Heaven Upside Down

Song title First performance Last performance
"Revelation #12" July 20, 2017 May 5, 2018
"Tattooed in Reverse" January 10, 2018 May 5, 2018
"WE KNOW WHERE YOU FUCKING LIVE" July 20, 2017 January 20, 2018
"SAY10" July 20, 2017 November 3, 2019
"KILL4ME" September 27, 2017 November 3, 2019
"Saturnalia" November 27, 2017 February 16, 2018
"JE$U$ CRI$I$" – –
"Blood Honey" – –
"Heaven Upside Down" – –
"Threats of Romance" – –

The Pale Emperor

Song title First performance Last performance
"Killing Strangers" April 9, 2014 August 9, 2016 and December 4, 2017
"Deep Six" April 9, 2014 October 28, 2018
"Third Day of a Seven Day Binge" April 9, 2014 December 6, 2017
"The Mephistopheles of Los Angeles" January 21, 2015 August 2, 2017
"Warship My Wreck" January 21, 2015[1] August 25, 2016[1]
"Slave Only Dreams to Be King" January 21, 2015 January 21, 2015
"The Devil Beneath My Feet" – –
"Birds of Hell Awaiting" February 13, 2015[1] February 13, 2015
"Cupid Carries a Gun" October 29, 2014 November 4, 2016
"Odds of Even" October 15, 2015 October 15, 2015

Born Villain

Song title First performance Last performance
"Hey, Cruel World..." April 27, 2012 August 14, 2014
"No Reflection" April 11, 2012 September 29, 2017
"Pistol Whipped" April 27, 2012 May 30, 2013
"Overneath the Path of Misery" – –
"Slo-Mo-Tion" April 27, 2012 February 23, 2013
"The Gardener" – –
"The Flowers of Evil" – –
"Children of Cain" – –
"Disengaged" – –
"Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms" – –
"Murderers Are Getting Prettier Every Day" May 11, 2012 October 5, 2012
"Born Villain" – –
"Breaking the Same Old Ground" – –

The High End of Low

Song title First performance Last performance
"Devour" October 5, 2009 December 21, 2009 and June 8, 2015[1]
"Pretty as a Swastika" June 3, 2009 December 21, 2009
"Leave a Scar" June 3, 2009 October 20, 2009
"Four Rusted Horses" June 3, 2009 July 9, 2013
"Arma-goddamn-motherfuckin-geddon" June 3, 2009 August 22, 2009
"Blank and White" October 20, 2009 October 24, 2009
"Running to the Edge of the World" August 29, 2009 December 21, 2009
"I Want to Kill You Like They Do in the Movies" September 7, 2009 September 8, 2009
"WOW" June 3, 2009 September 17, 2009 and February 15, 2018
"Wight Spider" September 10, 2009 September 26, 2009
"Unkillable Monster" – –
"We're from America" June 3, 2009 December 13, 2009
"I Have to Look Up Just to See Hell" – –
"Into the Fire" – –
"15" – –

Eat Me, Drink Me

Song title First performance Last performance
"If I Was Your Vampire" May 26, 2007 November 3, 2019
"Putting Holes in Happiness" May 26, 2007 January 22, 2008
"The Red Carpet Grave" – –
"They Said That Hell's Not Hot" – –
"Just a Car Crash Away" May 26, 2007 October 31, 2007
"Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)" May 23, 2007 March 2, 2008
"Evidence" – –
"Are You the Rabbit?" June 23, 2007 December 20, 2007
"Mutilation Is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery" – –
"You and Me and the Devil Makes 3" May 26, 2007 December 11, 2007
"EAT ME, DRINK ME" June 5, 2007 June 5, 2007

The Golden Age of Grotesque

Song title First performance Last performance
"Thaeter" – –
"This Is the New Shit" May 16, 2003 November 3, 2019
"mOBSCENE" May 16, 2003 November 3, 2019
"Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety-Zag" May 29, 2003 December 19, 2003
"Use Your Fist and Not Your Mouth" May 29, 2003 December 19, 2003
"The Golden Age of Grotesque" April 11, 2003 August 23, 2005
"(s)AINT" May 29, 2003 June 16, 2005
"Ka-boom Ka-boom" – –
"Slutgarden" – –
"♠" – –
"Para-noir" June 2, 2003 October 4, 2003
"The Bright Young Things" July 6, 2003 July 6, 2003
"Better of Two Evils" June 17, 2003 June 17, 2003
"Vodevil" – –
"Obsequey (The Death of Art)" – –

Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)

Song title First performance Last performance
"GodEatGod" November 14, 2000 February 6, 2001
"The Love Song" October 27, 2000 July 23, 2019
"The Fight Song" October 27, 2000 December 31, 2018
"Disposable Teens" October 27, 2000 October 27, 2018
"Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis)" – –
""President Dead"" December 16, 2000 December 16, 2000
"In the Shadow of the Valley of Death" February 6, 2001 July 15, 2012[1]
"Cruci-Fiction in Space" October 27, 2000 December 31, 2018
"A Place in the Dirt" – –
"The Nobodies" December 1, 2000 November 3, 2019
"The Death Song" October 27, 2000 October 8, 2001
"Lamb of God" December 20, 2004[1] December 20, 2004[1]
"Born Again" February 15, 2001 March 11, 2001
"Burning Flag" October 27, 2000 June 18, 2001
"Coma Black" January 19, 2008[1] June 7, 2012[1]
"Valentine's Day" October 27, 2000 June 18, 2001
"The Fall of Adam" – –
"King Kill 33°" October 2, 2012 July 23, 2019[1]
"Count to Six and Die (The Vacuum of Infinite Space Encompassing)" November 14, 2000 November 14, 2000

Mechanical Animals

Song title First performance Last performance
"Great Big White World" October 25, 1998 August 7, 2019
"The Dope Show" September 10, 1998 November 3, 2019
"Mechanical Animals" October 25, 1998 March 2, 2008
"Rock Is Dead" October 25, 1998 November 3, 2019
"Disassociative" August 2, 1999 April 24, 2015
"The Speed of Pain" October 25, 1998 April 28, 1999
"Posthuman" October 25, 1998 April 25, 1999
"I Want to Disappear" December 11, 1998 August 8, 1999
"I Don't Like the Drugs (But the Drugs Like Me)" October 25, 1998 August 8, 1999 and October 30, 2018
"New Model No. 15" – –
"User Friendly" October 25, 1998 April 25, 1999
"Fundamentally Loathsome" – –
"The Last Day on Earth" December 31, 1998 December 21, 2012
"Coma White" March 3, 1999 November 3, 2019

Antichrist Superstar

Song title First performance Last performance
"Irresponsible Hate Anthem" October 5, 1995 November 3, 2019
"The Beautiful People" October 3, 1996 November 3, 2019
"Dried Up, Tied and Dead to the World" October 3, 1996 October 31, 2018
"Tourniquet" November 1, 1995 August 5, 2018
"Little Horn" October 3, 1996 August 11, 2014
"Cryptorchid" October 3, 1996 April 9, 1997
"Deformography" February 14, 1997 September 8, 1997
"Wormboy" – –
"Mister Superstar" January 17, 1997 January 21, 2015
"Angel with the Scabbed Wings" October 3, 1996 November 3, 2019
"Kinderfeld" September 5, 1996 July 31, 1997
"Antichrist Superstar" October 22, 1995 November 3, 2019
"1996" September 5, 1996 March 15, 2012
"Minute of Decay" February 3, 1996 September 14, 1997 and August 23, 2005
"The Reflecting God" October 3, 1996 July 24, 2019
"Man That You Fear" October 3, 1996 November 12, 2015

Smells Like Children

Song title First performance Last performance
"The Hands of Small Children" – –
"Diary of a Dope Fiend" November 10, 2000[1] October 31, 2019[1]
"Shitty Chicken Gang Bang" – –
"Kiddie Grinder" – –
"Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" January 1, 1994 November 3, 2019
"Everlasting Cocksucker" – –
"Fuck Frankie" – –
"I Put a Spell on You" June 29, 1994 November 9, 1994
"Scabs, Guns and Peanut Butter" – –
"Dance of the Dope Hats" – –
"Dancing with the One-Legged..." – –
"White Trash" – –
"Rock 'n' Roll Nigger" December 27, 1994 – February 16, 2018

Portrait of an American Family

Song title First performance Last performance
"Prelude (The Family Trip)" January 1, 1994 – October 28, 2018
"Cake and Sodomy" June 1, 1990 – October 28, 2018
"Lunchbox" September 13, 1990 – February 16, 2018
"Organ Grinder" December 4, 1992 – February 4, 1996
"Cyclops" September 13, 1990 – December 31, 1995
"Dope Hat" September 13, 1990 – February 4, 1996
"Get Your Gunn" December 4, 1991 – August 12, 2014
"Wrapped in Plastic" December 4, 1991 – December 1, 1995
"Dogma" December 4, 1991 – March 22, 1997
"Sweet Tooth" April 16, 1993 - November 24, 1995
"Snake Eyes and Sissies" December 4, 1991 – February 4, 1996
"My Monkey" June 1, 1990 – October 23, 2003
"Misery Machine" September 13, 1990 – January 28, 1997

Bonus and non-album material

Song title First performance Last performance
"Apple of Sodom" February 5, 1997 September 16, 1997
"Astonishing Panorama of the Endtimes" June 18, 1999 June 10, 2003
"Cry Little Sister" June 1, 2018 October 31, 2018
"Down in the Park" June 4, 1994 February 1, 1995
"Five to One" August 18, 2012 June 24, 2015[1]
"God's Gonna Cut You Down" October 24, 2019 October 24, 2019
"Long Hard Road Out of Hell" – [1]
"Personal Jesus" September 17, 2004 July 21, 2017
"Sick City" November 20, 2017 November 23, 2017
"Suicide Is Painless" November 14, 2000 November 14, 2000
"Tainted Love" May 29, 2003 October 31, 2018
"The Suck for Your Solution" April 5, 1997 June 22, 1997
"The Tourniquet Prosthetic Dance Mix" February 8, 1997 September 16, 1997[1]
"This Is Halloween" October 31, 2006 October 31, 2007
"What Goes Around... Comes Around" May 23, 2007 May 23, 2007
"Working Class Hero" November 14, 2000 November 14, 2000

Unrecorded songs

Song title First performance Last performance
"1°" July 20, 2017 July 10, 2019
"1999" February 8, 1997[1] September 16, 1997[1]
"Alabama Song" April 11, 2003 April 11, 2003
"Baby You're a Rich Man" June 22, 1997[1] December 21, 2009[1]
"Come Together" June 29, 1994 January 25, 2014
"Dirt" December 2, 1995 February 4, 1996
"Happiness Is a Warm Gun" May 4, 1994[1] July 6, 2013[1]
"Helter Skelter (1994)" September 22, 1994 March 11, 1995
"Helter Skelter" July 11, 2018 August 18, 2019
"Hotel California" August 4, 2012 August 4, 2012
"I Got You" June 29, 1994 June 29, 1994
"Inauguration of the Mechanical Christ" October 25, 1998 August 3, 1999
"It's a Small World" June 4, 2003 | December 19, 2003[1]
"Little Child" – December 20, 2004[1]
"The High End of Low (intro)" June 3, 2009 December 21, 2009
"Mirror People" June 29, 1994 June 29, 1994
"Not to Touch the Earth" January 12, 2016 January 12, 2016
"Put a Little Love in Your Heart" October 7, 20091 October 7, 20091
"Smells Like Children" September 15, 1995 December 4, 1995
"Spine of God" April 7, 1999 April 7, 1999
"Surrender" December 31, 2000 December 31, 2000
"Where Did Our Love Go" December 12, 20031 December 12, 20031
"Where Did You Sleep Last Night" November 22, 2015 November 23, 2015
"Whole Wide World" June 23, 20091 June 23, 20091
"You Want Love" July 17, 2013 April 24, 2015

References

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